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#102468 - 01/22/06 03:55 AM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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This is very awesome, but unfortunately I do not know how to play a lot of them. My knowledge of notes pretty much only encompasses up to 32nds, and sixtuplets. I haven't been able to find a source that tells me how to play anything other than that. I'm big on counting the music as I play it, and I have absolutely no idea how to count 5, 7, 9 or X amount of hit beats.
I know this may be off-topic, but any ideas on how I might be able to figure this out?
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#102469 - 01/22/06 12:05 PM
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Not to get off topic either, but I think since this place is also a place of learning and there is nothing more to say about the pdf I will explain 9's to you, they are the easier ones, I'll show you the 9:8 ones (9 sixteenth in 8 sixteenth place)(9 in 2 counts) because thats the one you will commonly see, and I'll so you with the easy sticking. You can alternate sticking once you learn the sound of them. play this, Make sure you accent on every down beat (tap foot)  Now play 2 count triplets (quarter note triplets)Make sure the accent hits with the foot on 1 and 3 Ok now this make sure you are really on the beat with the 2 count triplet tap your foot  Now here act like the 2 count triplet accents were like the beats on the first image. Keep the accent constant but try to add the 2 extra notes to feel like triplets at a different tempo  After you work that out with the accents in the right place you can try to alternate the 9's, but usually through high school you see them in RLL RLL RLL pattern. thats about all I can say sorry if its hard to understand but its hard to show you on the net. Good luck! Tip for 5's count it Un-i-ver-si-ty or hip-po-pot-a-mus any 5 syllable word.
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#102472 - 01/22/06 04:10 PM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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Ah, that helps quite a lot, Swiss. Thank you immensely 
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#102476 - 01/23/06 04:33 PM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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Nice list. I am myself working on rudimental stuff for the french community. Those are my comments for my first reading. I hope you will continue to work on that list and we might developpe a concesus for the news, hybrids, invertions rudiments. I will developpe my comment later.
#11-13-14 are the same rudiment whit different name. I prefere "cheese chut-a-chu"; #27-31, I prefere "chut-a-chu". (make sense whit #14); #20 sould be related to swiss army triplets and not to cheese; #118 is a single drag paradiddle (PAS); You should also had (l)Rrl(r)Llr (alterned swiss army) one off my favorite.
see you later,
The french connection,
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#102478 - 01/23/06 05:49 PM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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Nice...real nice. I was about to go buy a hybrid book too. Thanks man.
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#102482 - 01/30/06 10:15 AM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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Excellent. Great Job. Now I can see all of these fancy newdarnged rudiments you kids always talk about.
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#102484 - 02/13/06 09:38 PM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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im like the 342345 person to say this but wow great job and thanx, this whole time i was playing bookreports the wrong way i was putting a flam on the para part right after the first didle, beat "e"
wow thanx!
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#102489 - 04/08/06 01:20 PM
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Just wanted everyone to know. Book reports sticking is lR L R R rL R L L I messed that up on the last sticking pattern there flam paradiddle patterns. Just in case 
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#102490 - 04/12/06 02:02 AM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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That book report sticking looks like a flam paradiddle to me, unless I'm reading how you wrote it incorrectly. Unless there's some mistake, a book report is:
RR l (l)r rr LL r (r)l ll, where RR and LL are accented diddles, rr and ll are unaccented, and (l)r is a flam.
If something has more than one name, just choose one and use that. Since when is Bachman infallible?
It doesn't even really matter anyway, I've seen eggbeaters written as straight fives and as three sixteenths plus two thirtyseconds...like the first half of a sixlet plus a diddle. Just learn everything with proper accuracy and technique, play it off the left, invert it, play it inverted off the left, move the accent to every beat of the rudiment, and you'll be set for corps and PIW.
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#102491 - 04/17/06 01:00 AM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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dude, thanks a lot man, great job.
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#102493 - 04/29/06 07:47 PM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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How do I download the book because when I press attachment it goes to Microsoft word and looks like some alien language.
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#102494 - 04/29/06 10:42 PM
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Maybe the file's a .pdf file so you need Adobe Acrobat Reader for it?
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#102495 - 04/30/06 03:40 PM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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nice for the millionth time but I finally got them.
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#102501 - 06/03/06 11:01 AM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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Thats a "Book Mark", as I've heard it been called. I think there is another rudiment in that book called that, but it is a different pattern. These are so confusing..............
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#102506 - 07/11/06 01:16 PM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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#102507 - 08/09/06 09:30 PM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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this is the reason i joined this website. awesome stuff.
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#102508 - 08/28/06 04:08 PM
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I do believe you forgot my rudiment: Cheese taps. Flam taps with a cheese on 1 and &.
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#102509 - 08/30/06 04:57 AM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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Great book Ratamaswiss! Couple of questions for everyone out there... I'm looking at Rudiments 55, 56, and 101. What is the difference/similarity between a patty and a flafla? How do you "patty" a rudiment and how do you "flafla" a rudiment? I always thought that a patty was a downbeat and uh ACCENT pattern, while a flafla was a downbeat and uh FLAM pattern. So a patty flafla rudiment would just contain both. Is this correct or way off? However looking at these three similar rudiments I am confused. According to #55 (flam 5 flafla) there is an inverted/hand to hand primary stroke pattern (RLRL, followed by LRLR). And #56 (Flam Five Patty) there is a regular alternating non hand to hand RLRL RLRL pattern. So from these two rudiments alone one might infer that this sticking is the difference between patty and flafla since the diddles, flams and accents are the same for both. However whether that is true or not when you put #101 into the mix it messes everything up. #101 (Patty Fives) is the same as #56 except for the addition of an accent on the uhs. Help me everyone, I'm seriously losing sleep over this 
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#102510 - 09/11/06 08:14 PM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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on the casey claw is that the casey claw that casey brohard does in his winning DCI solo and if so he did that with one hand and it has right and left.
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#102512 - 09/21/06 03:50 PM
Re: 128 Hybrid Rudiment Book!
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Loc: Southern MD
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on the casey claw is that the casey claw that casey brohard does in his winning DCI solo and if so he did that with one hand and it has right and left.
I can't view Brohard's solo right now, but I'm pretty sure he does a 3-way tap to make a rapid succession of notes with one hand.
The "Casey Claw" is not named after Casey Brohard. It is named from someone back in the early 90s from University of Kentucky's drumlines (IIRC) who also marched Cavies (they all did back then ). Hulka could clarify this.
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