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#140410 - 04/15/07 01:29 AM Re: Pulling the sound out of the instrument [Re: DigitalDrummer]
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Registered: 06/24/06
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And to add to your analogy, in most forms of karate, the attacker is supposed to "punch through" the target in a way similar to playing through the head. If your target is 1 foot away, then imagine you're punching a target 2 feet away.




Yeah, same idea... what you intend to do after the event affects the event. This is a general life lesson if you think about it... what you intend to do AFTER skydiving will affect whether you open your parachute or not.

Anyway, here's another thing that I like to do with this concept... I like to have my keyboard players play marching snare drums for a while and get a feel for the rebound that they give. Then, playing keyboards, try to imitate the same rebound. That works well for some students who are more kinesthetic learners.

Same concept, (yet another) different approach.


Edited by jthurman (04/15/07 01:30 AM)
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#140411 - 04/16/07 09:23 AM Re: Pulling the sound out of the instrument [Re: DigitalDrummer]
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Registered: 05/12/03
Loc: St. Louis, MO
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The same goes for Tympani and any other instrument...




It's also a good idea to spell "timpani" right if you want to express your knowledge of the instrument




Can't tell if you're being sarcastic about his spelling or not, but tImpani and tYmpani are both accepted and correct spelling of kettle drums.
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#140412 - 04/18/07 08:32 PM Re: Pulling the sound out of the instrument [Re: drumcorpbc]
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Registered: 10/03/06
Loc: TX
Whoops, I was unaware of that >_<
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#140413 - 05/01/07 07:14 PM Re: Pulling the sound out of the instrument [Re: DigitalDrummer]
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Registered: 08/22/04
I believe instructors in high school use the phrase "pull the sound out" to discuss the idea of projection to students that age. Projection is all about technique (similar to what jthurman discussed above). I never really talked much about this idea until this year, I re-taught technique to the keyboards and the sound does carry much further. It creates the sensation of volume but it really just projects further.
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#168948 - 08/06/08 04:12 PM Re: Pulling the sound out of the instrument [Re: MarathonDrumGod]
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Registered: 08/04/08
Loc: Bakersfield, California
I think they use the phrase because they don't want students to do the opposite of the action, which would be to keep the mallets on the bars after contact has been made. My instructor actually used the analogy of pretending the bars were hot and you couldn't keep the mallets on the bars.

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#169965 - 08/19/08 01:28 AM Re: Pulling the sound out of the instrument [Re: DigaDupSuck]
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Registered: 09/26/07
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I think percussionisto has the right idea. What the director is doing is merely giving a visual representation that the student can use to produce the result that the director wants. I don't think the director has time to explain the physics of percussion like: the concepts of force, aiming below the surface of the bar/head, how microseconds matter when it comes to how long the mallet/stick maintains contact with the head/bar, etc.

If a student is truly interested in learning all about these fascinating yet difficult concepts to understand (I barely do at times and I've studied this at college for 4 years!), then the director can explain it to them. However, I think to make a quick fix, "lifting the sound from the bars" is acceptable.
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