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#143414 - 05/13/07 02:48 PM Rules
Anonymous
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i was wondering if you guys had rules for a troubled line, I've come up with some for ours as the BD asked here they are


Rule 1 No stupidity or horseplay will be tolerated During Band Rehearsal time.

Rule 2 We will not show anything less than professionalism

Rule 3 if you drop concert band (without good reason) and are on bass do not expect a snare/tenor spot in next years marching season

Rule 4 if you are a snare and drop concert band do not whine if you don't get snare the next year

Rule 5 we will move from rehearsal zone to rehearsal zone in an orderly fashion

Rule 6 Superior is not an option it is a privilege and must be earned

Rule 7 missing practices is not tolerated

Rule 8 breaking one of the above rules results in laps/push ups

Rule 9 being on time is a must

Rule 10 Your responsible for your own equipment, do not tear up carriers or purposefully damage our instruments, these things cost money.

Rule 11 Do not talk while the director is speaking or while standing at attention

Rule 12 Do not break attention

Rule 13 Do not take off your instrument unless granted permission

Rule 14 don't suck

i was wondering also if these are too harsh?


Edited by CitronelleCptn (05/13/07 08:28 PM)

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#143415 - 05/13/07 05:11 PM Re: Rules [Re: ]
Anonymous
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1, 2, and 5 are a little questionable. Everthing else looks ok.

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#143416 - 05/13/07 05:16 PM Re: Rules [Re: ]
Divalish Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 04/16/03
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
I like rules 1, 2, and 5. That's the kind of thing that takes a HS line to another level. You can goof off a little in sectionals, but ensemble time is the time to be serious.

I'd also add something about being responsible for your own equipment.
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#143417 - 05/13/07 05:34 PM Re: Rules [Re: Divalish]
Anonymous
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ooooh yea thanks for that one thats definitly gonna be rule 11 they tore up the basses last year and they have a thing about pulling the black stuff off the carriers

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#143418 - 05/13/07 06:51 PM Re: Rules [Re: ]
drummer4life225 Offline


Registered: 08/06/06
Loc: Virginia
my school has a big problem with people talking with the directors talking and at other innapropriat times and we have a problem with the people taking their drums of at wrong times so the rule is you cant take your drums of unitll tenors do cause their the heavierst unless directed to by captian or whatever
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#143419 - 05/13/07 08:26 PM Re: Rules [Re: drummer4life225]
Anonymous
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2 new rules thank you

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#143420 - 05/13/07 09:00 PM Re: Rules [Re: ]
Sajre Offline


Registered: 10/06/04
Loc: Lancaster, Pennsylvania
Those are some good rules.

I do have a problem with rules 4 and 5. Where I teach, marching band is an extra curricular activity. Half my line is not in the music program at the school other than for marching band. The percussion program in our district is not that strong, the High school band director also runs the middle school band and teaches at 2 of the elementary schools. He is a low brass player with very little percussion background. Not that he isn't a good teacher, he has more than doubled the size of our band since he started at the district a few years ago. I have petitioned the school board on many occasions for a full time percussion instructor for the district but nothing every comes of it.

The students in my line are motivated and want to be there. If they practice, show me that they want to play, and are willing to put forth the effort required for an instrument, I have no problem giving them a spot on the line.

Shouldn't #8 be at the bottom?
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#143421 - 05/13/07 09:59 PM Re: Rules [Re: Sajre]
Anonymous
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Quote:

Those are some good rules.




thanks


Quote:

Shouldn't #8 be at the bottom?




yes im going to move it

**Re Edited**

Rule 1 No stupidity or horseplay will be tolerated During Band Rehearsal time.

Rule 2 We will not show anything less than professionalism

Rule 3 if you drop concert band (without good reason) and are on bass do not expect a snare/tenor spot in next years marching season

Rule 4 if you are a snare and drop concert band do not whine if you don't get snare the next year

Rule 5 we will move from rehearsal zone to rehearsal zone in an orderly fashion

Rule 6 Superior is not an option it is a privilege and must be earned

Rule 7 missing practices is not tolerated

Rule 8 being on time is a must

Rule 9 Your responsible for your own equipment, do not tear up carriers or purposefully damage our instruments, these things cost money.

Rule 11 Do not talk while the director is speaking or while standing at attention

Rule 11 Do not break attention

Rule 12 Do not take off your instrument unless granted permission

Rule 13 breaking one of the above rules results in laps/push ups

Rule 14 don't suck

rule 4 is because we only have so many snares to be issued, and im not sure if we can order new ones yet . . .


Edited by CitronelleCptn (05/13/07 10:03 PM)

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#143422 - 05/14/07 10:28 AM Re: Rules [Re: Sajre]
Sajre Offline


Registered: 10/06/04
Loc: Lancaster, Pennsylvania
Quote:

I do have a problem with rules 4 and 5. Where I teach, marching band is an extra curricular activity. Half my line is not in the music program at the school other than for marching band. The percussion program in our district is not that strong, the High school band director also runs the middle school band and teaches at 2 of the elementary schools. He is a low brass player with very little percussion background. Not that he isn't a good teacher, he has more than doubled the size of our band since he started at the district a few years ago. I have petitioned the school board on many occasions for a full time percussion instructor for the district but nothing every comes of it.




My bad, I meant rules 3 & 4 not 4 & 5.
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#143423 - 05/14/07 03:59 PM Re: Rules [Re: Sajre]
Anonymous
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concert season is when we learn rudiments and show parts, hope that clears something up

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#143424 - 05/15/07 10:19 AM Re: Rules -- destruction of equipment [Re: ]
DRUMS11 Offline


Registered: 11/01/06
Loc: Columbus, Ohio
I've seen a number of posts, here and there, that mention intentional destruction of equipment -- from picking fuzz off of puff mallets and intentional breaking of heads to mistreatment of drums and carriers.

So, I make the following proposal:

Parents and students must sign and date a sheet, to be kept on file, stating that they are financially responsible for damage to instruments due to intentional mistreatment/abuse, vandalism (e.g. picking fuzz off mallets, poking hole in drum heads with a pen, etc.) or horseplay.

No signatures = no drumming. I suggest a new sheet every year.

This would obviously have to be a band director issued item, and might need approval from the principal and/or school board.

Let's see kids intentionally tear stuff up when their parents will come down on them for it, and even the most lackadaisical parent will take notice when they find out how much this stuff costs.

I also think that it would be a good idea to assign a student to a particular instrument or carrier for as long as they are on that instrument until they graduate -- no more "seniors get the equipment that's in the best condition" crap. If they want a "good" piece of equipment they'd better take good care of it and have it fixed or fix it themselves if it's broken or held together with duct tape.


Edited by DRUMS11 (05/15/07 10:28 AM)
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#143425 - 05/15/07 01:27 PM Re: Rules -- destruction of equipment [Re: DRUMS11]
BigLove Offline


Registered: 02/26/07
Loc: Houston, Texas
amen to that!!!!! I do that with my students, but if one breaks soemthing i divide the cost to the entire drumline. So some numb nuts throws his cymbals on the ground and cracks them that = him plus 31 more people to pay for it. I dont charge them for stuff such as accidents, or wear n tear. But it is as seriouse as if you dont pay you dont graduate as will be an example in 2 weeks when 2 of my seniors who did the most damage refuse to pay plus other fees they owe the school.
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#143426 - 05/15/07 04:20 PM Re: Rules -- destruction of equipment [Re: BigLove]
Anonymous
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oooo i like this idea, ill pass this along, thanks guys

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#143427 - 12/07/07 05:00 PM Re: Rules -- destruction of equipment [Re: ]
devildog47 Offline
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Registered: 12/01/07
Loc: Cartersville, Ga
I understand some of these rules such as being on time and not talking while the BD is talking, but rules such as not doing concert season? I did my full set of concert seasons but I really didn't care for them. Most college drummers only do marching band just for the line. Drummers don't need concert season to learn rudiments and such. I have my line tryout every year and as long as I didn't have a problem with them, they can tryout for whatever they want and if their good enough, they have earned that decision. Also their school work is important so extra classes can also be good for them so I would say chill on the whole you better be in concert band or else.
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#143428 - 12/07/07 07:50 PM Re: Rules -- destruction of equipment [Re: devildog47]
SkyhawkDrummer Offline


Registered: 11/06/07
Loc: SoCal
Yea dont say No snare/tenor spots if your bass and u drop concert band,That makes Bass drum seem like a lower instrument.It really isn't.It's just as hard and at times more challenging than snares/tenors.
(This is NOT because i play bass,i also play snare)
Just drop rules 3 and 4 and your golden
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#143429 - 12/08/07 06:30 PM Re: Rules [Re: ]
Mightymouse Offline


Registered: 05/08/07
I think that 3&4 kinda suck.... not that its a bad rule its just at are school most cant do concert band due to that its a semester class and theres so many we have to take already, not counting the honors classes and extra collage classes. Pluse our sophmore class got jipped into taking a new required class that they just had to add!!!! Its SUCKS!!! I am currently in the position that I wont be taking concert band next year..... and I still get to play whatever I try out for and make!!! so Kinda lighten up on that rule, some kids just cant do it!!!

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#143430 - 12/09/07 11:50 PM Re: Rules [Re: Mightymouse]
CrashCrimson Offline


Registered: 11/21/07
Loc: Southeastern Region.
Honestly, I gotta agree with every rule here. If drummers here don't have time for concert band, they don't have time to perfect their snare or tenor parts, since that's all our concert percussion really does during class.

Of course, there are schedualing conflicts, but otherwise, dropping concert band should be a sure fire way to find yourself playing bass next year.


Edited by CrashCrimson (12/09/07 11:50 PM)
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#143431 - 12/10/07 02:10 PM Re: Rules [Re: CrashCrimson]
Deadman Offline


Registered: 10/11/07
Loc: McArthur, Ohio
There's a difference between someone like me who goes through a set of heads every month and someone who gets pissed and does rim shots

if they INTENTIONALLY break something...make that individual pay for it
i've never made an entire line pay for something one jerk-off did

but...if, for example, a senior witnessed someone doing something like someone breaking mallets or bending stuff, and didn't do anything to stop it, then i also hold him/her responsible

just my opinion...


and btw...cymbals are what most kids don't want to play, not bass
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#143432 - 12/10/07 09:28 PM Re: Rules [Re: Deadman]
SFZ541 Offline


Registered: 01/22/06
Loc: Sanibel, FL
It's really both they don't want to play, neither get their appropriate glory so people don't want to play them. If they only they knew how amazing they are

On topic, those are all god rules, I don't know about the concert band ones but they do make sense. The only reason I'd keep those rules is because concert band is a good way to show commitment, but there are lot's of other way to show commitment so I don't know.
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#143433 - 01/17/08 12:29 AM Re: Rules [Re: CrashCrimson]
Chambana Offline


Registered: 08/20/07
Quote:

Honestly, I gotta agree with every rule here. If drummers here don't have time for concert band, they don't have time to perfect their snare or tenor parts, since that's all our concert percussion really does during class.





Because private lessons out of class as well as individual, self-motivated practice outside of the normal school day is a completely radical and worthless idea that wouldn't ever allow for improvement on a part.


right...


How about your concert percussion works on the concert band music? Besides, since when should a supposed 'irresponsible' and 'undedicated' member be put in a bass line? Bass line should be some of your better and more dedicated players. A run sounds like crap with one person missing.

I disagree with the two concert band rules.

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#143434 - 01/28/08 08:15 PM Re: Rules [Re: Chambana]
SkyhawkDrummer Offline


Registered: 11/06/07
Loc: SoCal
can I use a few of these rules for my school next year,I want to make sure we keep the freshman in check???
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#143435 - 01/28/08 10:22 PM Re: Rules [Re: SkyhawkDrummer]
CrashCrimson Offline


Registered: 11/21/07
Loc: Southeastern Region.
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Because private lessons out of class as well as individual, self-motivated practice outside of the normal school day is a completely radical and worthless idea that wouldn't ever allow for improvement on a part.




Deeeefinitely didn't say that. The problem (here) is that very, very few of the individuals are motivated enough to even consider practicing outside of school.


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How about your concert percussion works on the concert band music?




First few weeks of school, we do run throughs of the show and pep band during concert band classes.

Quote:

Besides, since when should a supposed 'irresponsible' and 'undedicated' member be put in a bass line? Bass line should be some of your better and more dedicated players. A run sounds like crap with one person missing.





By all means, I agree. I don't know why people don't want to play bass, but if they don't have the responsibility/dedication to learn a bass part, why would I trust them with a set of tenors or a snare...? :/


Gah, back on topic, I'm thinkin' that mayhaps the rules about concert band aren't quite up to it during the off season. Second semester of school, we focus more on concert music, and though it'd be beneficial for percussionists to be in the class, I can't see how it would murder them if they weren't.

Unless they don't pick up a pair of sticks until July. There might be a problem then. >.<
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#164799 - 06/12/08 01:54 AM Re: Rules [Re: Chambana]
NightMusic Offline


Registered: 06/12/08
Loc: St. Augustine, Florida
I dunno. I thought the rules seemed kinda immature. They seemed kinda pessimistic, too.

Here are the rules in our drumline handbook:

-Do not be late. If you are going to be late call someone

-Do make sure that if you are on time that you help the whole team to get ready for rehearsal (esp. pit equipment)

-Do not make noise or play on your instrument when the director, staff, or section leaders are speaking.

-Do have fun in helping to teach others what you already know so that the whole section is ready

-Do take your music home and practice it.

-Do not ridicule eachother

-Do remember that the pit and battery are one team and must work together on and off the field


Also, it defeats the purpose of telling people to be professional if one of your rules is "don't suck". That seems like an un-professional thing to say.

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#168965 - 08/06/08 08:03 PM Re: Rules [Re: Anonymous]
DiCriscio Offline


Registered: 07/10/08
Loc: Pennsylvania
yeah 3 & 4 seem a little questionable to me too.. but at my school as Sajre said, marching band is an extra curricular activity. We have many, many scheduling conflicts at my high school and half of the honors kids CAN'T schedule band. Its near impossible. That may be why we only had 18 kids in concert band last year....

I can understand these rules though. It would be really nice to learn rudiments and show parts in concert band. Unfortunately we only have one concert band class a year and its usually if not always in the second semester and first or fourth block.

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