Hey guys, I'm really sorry if this has been asked before, but I can't seem to find it using the search function.

Ayways, I noticed that a lot of people tend to pump their hands when doing high tempo rolls. Now, when I just started playing seriously a while ago, but whenever I try to do those high tempo rolls, my hands get really tense and I the rolls lose quality.

Is there a "proper" way of doing those rolls? If so, can anyone please elaborate on the different hand movements/positions needed to play them. Thank you very much guys.

My only suggestion might be is to use a little more arm.

Don't get me wrong using your wrist is primary! But, at fast tempos, a little bit of arm might be the key ingredient.

I think snare777 is right that you should use alittle more arm. Wrist is key, but most people you watch will have to use some arm, depending on how fast the roll is. As for hand position/movement, I really think it's the same as a normal roll, but you're using alittle extra arm.

Arms become essential at a certain point of speed to keep rolls technically correct, but by arm they mean forearms - the part between your wrist and elbow. Past the elbow isn't ergonomic because it really doesn't help, and it looks kind of stupid .

I had the same problem, and still do just not as much. Like they said, I just starting using my forearm more cause at some speeds Im just afraid my wrist will snap...But just use some forearm to keep the sound good, just dont make it look bad.

Alright, thanks guys. I'll be sure to use a little more arm on my rolls. Also, if you guys don't mind, is there some sort of an online instruction site with some videos of the forearm use? I can't seem to get down the motion of doing it.

Hah it should really be natural. Every stoke contains some arm, wrist, and finger. I may make a video of me rolling and post it one day or you could go look at some I and E solos

Once you get comfortable playing really high stick heights, you'll learn to relax your fingers, even at that volume.

Dont play over your head. Although everyone wants to be able to roll at high tempos, not everyone can off the bat. Best thing is to play up to where your technique is still good with a metronome, and then gradually speed it up every couple of minutes. Also work on tap-space rolls while your at it to make sure you understand your metrics fully.

-Justin