what do you do if your line has kids that have a bad attitude towards playing, bad attitude towards the music, and a bad attitude towards each other

You give them a consequence such as getting kicked out

what if you dont have the power to kick them out

Phew that's tough, do you know anything that they have a good attitude towards or like to do? If not then I don't know why they even joined in the first place.

they like to annoy you, not learn their parts, be d***'s about everything. That is the same question i want to now!

attitude comes before ability

I see this question posted all the time here.

For once, I'll offer the solution I provide to my students when someone decides to slack. Everyone else needs to use that as motivation to get better. If everyone around that individual improves and their performance becomes a significant issue, someone has to notice.

I'm not suggesting that you all improve to pick up the slack for a bum in the line, just don't let them hold you back personally.

Those problems works themselves out either by the student realizing they can't hang and bailing, getting the message and improving, or an administrator gives them an alternate "assignment".

It sucks that you usually dont see this as that much of a problem with schools who have lots of kids auditioning for the line. They know that if they continue to be a problem, their gone and someone else takes their spot. But at the school that I teach at, we need all the players we can get. Its sad, but the band had a rough couple of years, and recruiting sometimes isnt easy. So when you have players that dont care and are becoming a problem and cant be kicked out... you cant have no drumline, so instead find out why they are causing a problem, because its usually with something that they dont like. The band teacher, the other students, the music, the way your running the line, being bored, the list goes on and on... So find out what the problem is, either by sitting down with them, or noticing in what situation that problem arrises and then do something about it. Show your credability for being able to teach. I imagine your teaching because you dont suck. So make sure they know your qualified, lol but dont be a conceeded about it. And make drumming fun, new, and a good learnig experience. And one more thing that could really help. Have good communication and a good relationship with the director. It really helps the students get the big picture when they notice that your working as a team and not against eachother. Hope this helps.

My mom has a saying about such situations. Shoot 'em all and atart from scratch.