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#156033 - 12/28/07 04:52 PM Ralph Hardimon's
whitekevlar Offline
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Registered: 12/20/07
Is it just me or dose it bother anyone else that ralph hardimons differ so much in weight from pair to pair?

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#156034 - 12/28/07 05:07 PM Re: Ralph Hardimon's [Re: whitekevlar]
DrumerKruse Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Loc: Colorado
With all sticks there will be this problem. you need to find the sticks with the most dense wood. there is an easy way to do this, and this is also a great way to match sticks and check to see if the sticks are dead or not.

step 1: take one stick and put the tip in your ear.

Step 2: holding the stick at a normal point and only with your 2 point fulcrum

Step 3: with either your free hand, your friends hand, or the easiest way with the same hand, flick the stick with your fingernail.
This should let you hear the stick resonate very clearly in your ear.

Step 4: Identify if it is a high or low tone. High tones mean dense wood- keep that stick around. if you hear a low tone that means you got a softer stick, and this stick will be lighter. If the stick barley produces a sound and almost no resonance, just say NO, set the stick down and walk away..... or grab another pair, and repeat steps 1-4.

Step 5: Even though you have that pretty Vic Firth matched stick promise, that only means that they put the dense with the dense and the non dense with the non dense. You can also probably find a better matched pair if you grab a couple and match them yourself.

I personally have never had that big of a problem with Vic Firth or Promark, but i make sure my innovative sticks are always matched like this. Not to say innovative makes a bad stick...
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#156035 - 02/19/08 08:12 AM Re: Ralph Hardimon's [Re: DrumerKruse]
GurrillaWarsnare Offline


Registered: 12/25/06
Loc: Dayton Ohio
I have never really had problems with a pair of Hardimons other than Having them split down the middle (hows that happen? lol) I've had most of my problems with Innovative percussions FS JC's but if you can come across a good pair of those then they are money.
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#156036 - 02/19/08 11:23 PM Re: Ralph Hardimon's [Re: GurrillaWarsnare]
drumbum511 Offline


Registered: 11/04/06
Loc: walnut, california
i've had a couple of mismatched sticks my self, which pissed the hell out of me. just make sure u avoid this by testing the sticks before purchasing.
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#156037 - 03/09/08 09:12 PM Re: Ralph Hardimon's [Re: drumbum511]
snarez9209 Offline


Registered: 03/05/08
Loc: Wallaceton, PA
I don't know how I managed it, but I ordered a pair of Graham C. Johns snare sticks from Coopermans... they're two different colors. Perfectly matched otherwise, but ugh, the colors drive me nuts hahah... All of my ralphies have been well-matched, but I have noticed the weight difference you mentioned. All of mine tend to be on the heavy side though, I like them that way because I tend to play on snare and tenor through the course of the day since half our line learns by ear >=| *shrug* at least i don't break them that often ^^
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#161393 - 04/30/08 03:12 PM Re: Ralph Hardimon's [Re: snarez9209]
Dave_Fry Offline


Registered: 05/24/04
Loc: Sanatoga, PA
Hardimons and mismatched pitches? NEVER! HAHA...yeah this is something that I think has been happening since these sticks came out, but does anyone out there remember the older versions of the Hardimons that were heavier and more dense? The tint of the paint was different as well...it was more white than cream. Anyways...yeah this is something that happens all the time with these sticks, but DK did a good job teaching you how to pair sticks ...now maybe he should go to Vic Firth and teach them...

It is not supposed to be the consumer's job to pitch match sticks. This is supposed to be done by the vendor. I think that you (DK) contradicted yourself by saying I have never had that problem, but then you go on to explain how you have to rip through a whole brick of sticks and start pairing them off yourself. That is the exact problem that everyone has. If you buy 10-20 pair then you will probably be fine...however, if you buy 1 pair, you are pretty much up the creek unless you get lucky and Vic Firth actually decided to match that pair that you bought...good luck with that...
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#161543 - 05/03/08 12:25 AM Re: Ralph Hardimon's [Re: Dave_Fry]
DrumDoode77 Offline
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Registered: 06/28/07
Loc: Alabama
in my experience, hardimons are usually pretty matched, but you will get the odd pair on occasion. Maybe you've just had bad luck so far. I've never heard of that method spoken about above though. It seems like a pretty good method. I should give it a try sometime
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#162280 - 05/14/08 10:36 PM Re: Ralph Hardimon's [Re: DrumDoode77]
gwdrummr77 Offline


Registered: 05/05/08
Loc: West Virginia
i have a pair of older ones, i like the heavier version
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#162326 - 05/15/08 04:21 PM Re: Ralph Hardimon's [Re: gwdrummr77]
Dave_Fry Offline


Registered: 05/24/04
Loc: Sanatoga, PA
I really wish I could find a pair of the "old school" Hardimon's. They are way more balanced, and I cant stand the fact that they changed that stick SO drastically...
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#164665 - 06/10/08 01:59 AM Re: Ralph Hardimon's [Re: Dave_Fry]
FHSsnare09 Offline


Registered: 05/18/08
Loc: Ohio
ive never really noticed a difference with the hardimons, the sticks that i have problems with are tom aungst outdoor every pair seem hollow, has anyone else noticed this?
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