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#161379 - 04/30/08 10:37 AM Re: DLO solo bragging rights [Re: drumholio]
dredpir8roberts Offline


Registered: 10/23/07
Man it's so hard to judge a solo without hearing it. And without seeing it, as the visual aspect of all that split stuff I'm sure is very cool. It's kind of an odd thing to be judging a 3 bar snare break vs. a 12 bar quad break, but here's my opinion:

I like the first bar of the snare break. The second bar is cool, but it almost seems overly complicated just for the sake of being complicated. I'm having a hard time putting together exactly how it sounds and it seems like it would be really hard to clean. In the last bar the hurta's with the accents on the left kinda turn me off, just personal preference.

As for the quad break, I like it. A lot of cool movement going on, it's definitely a fairly advanced solo. I'm guessing it's meant to be played on stands since behind the back probably isn't going to happen otherwise. I think my favorite part is the triple left 2 1 2 followed by the double stop crush in bar 7, though I personally would mix up the two paradiddlediddles leading into it, given the complexity of the rest of the break. Then there's the split stuff... like I said it's hard to visualize it just looking at the music but it seems pretty cool. The scrape seems to flow well, I like how it leads in with the pududuh. My only comment really is that all the splitting is cool, but given the difficulty it would have been cool to see something split besides 8th notes.

So those are my thoughts, my vote goes to drumholio.

Drumholio: 1
Beardo: 0


edit: In the future it might be good to specify at what tempo it's meant to be played.


Edited by dredpir8roberts (04/30/08 10:49 AM)

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#161381 - 04/30/08 11:04 AM Re: DLO solo bragging rights [Re: dredpir8roberts]
Beardo_MSU Offline


Registered: 11/14/07
Loc: Starkville Mississippi
yeah, I can understand how something this hard would be hard to understand without hearing it. I have a video that I took on vhs, but I have no clue where it could be. snugglebunny of my stuff got messed up in the hurricane, so there is a good chance it was part of the destruction.

I tend to think though, that snugglebunny of people now rely way too much on the play back of some notation program like Virtual Drumline or Finale, instead of actually just reading music...kinda becoming a lost art in the scheme of things. I'm not trying to be an butt or anything, so I hope you don't think I'm trying to put you down.

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#161394 - 04/30/08 03:28 PM Re: DLO solo bragging rights [Re: Beardo_MSU]
drumholio Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 09/05/00
Loc: Tullahoma, TN
 Originally Posted By: Beardo_MSU


I tend to think though, that snugglebunny of people now rely way too much on the play back of some notation program like Virtual Drumline or Finale, instead of actually just reading music...kinda becoming a lost art in the scheme of things. I'm not trying to be an butt or anything, so I hope you don't think I'm trying to put you down.


I could not have said that any better. I completely agree.

Personally, I would rather look at the actual music than hear just an mp3. You can make something that sounds cool, but is not written well or playable (tenors especially). One question to "mp3" crowd...does your instructor make you an mp3 of the music he/she gives you to learn or do you have to just hack it out to learn it?
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The 2 1 2 tenor thing is something I saw Music City Mystique do in 2004 (seven deadly sins). I agree about the RLRRLL RLRRLL going into the 2 1 2 thing. I had that solo in my head for a long time and didn't put it on paper until I thought of this "competition" thing. Apparently, in my head time signature doesn't matter because I had to redo a couple of things to get it to fit into something that made sense. Thanks for the review.
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#161395 - 04/30/08 03:51 PM Re: DLO solo bragging rights [Re: drumholio]
Dave_Fry Offline


Registered: 05/24/04
Loc: Sanatoga, PA
I think the whole thing about wanting to hear a solo or section of music is just to fully understand the exact interpretation of what is written. In the second solo there is some switching of meter which shouldn't really confuse things because the 1/8th stays constant, however, some people need to hear things AND read them to fully understand what they should sound like. I am a huge proponent of Finale and Virtual Drumline-like programs and soundfonts because I believe that it helps people understand what they are playing and reading a little bit more.

Now for the review...

Both Solos are nice...I really enjoy the trade of the Tenor solo and the flow of the sweep near the ending. Although comparing Tenor solo's to snare solo's is tough IMO, I believe I would have to give the nod to the tenor solo...The snare break that was submitted was pretty much a quick RAM and not really a solo, whereas the Tenor solo actually has the look and feel of a true break. I believe holio wins my vote as well:

Drumholio: 2
Beardo: 0
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#161397 - 04/30/08 03:53 PM Re: DLO solo bragging rights [Re: drumholio]
dredpir8roberts Offline


Registered: 10/23/07
 Originally Posted By: drumholio
You can make something that sounds cool, but is not written well or playable (tenors especially). One question to "mp3" crowd...does your instructor make you an mp3 of the music he/she gives you to learn or do you have to just hack it out to learn it?


The opposite is also definitely true on tenors, scrapes just sound like... well nothing really, but look and sound and feel good on drums.

Personally, for this upcoming season I gave my kids all the music for the exercises, and then gave them VDL recordings to play along with after they'd learned them all. I don't necessarily want them relying on the recording to learn the part, but I think practicing along to it is much more fun, and it gets them to play along to a metronome without even realizing it.

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#161426 - 04/30/08 09:47 PM Re: DLO solo bragging rights [Re: dredpir8roberts]
drumholio Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 09/05/00
Loc: Tullahoma, TN
Ok, I think I need to clarify my position on this one. If I have the choice, I would like to see and hear the music. However, if I can not have both, I would much rather have the music to look at it than to have the sound to hear. I can hear things in my head much better than I can see them in my head (which would make me a visual learner I suppose)

the metronome aspect of soundfonts is definitely a nice touch especially on show music
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#161797 - 05/06/08 11:04 AM Re: DLO solo bragging rights [Re: drumholio]
dredpir8roberts Offline


Registered: 10/23/07
I guess you win drumholio

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#161845 - 05/07/08 09:16 AM Re: DLO solo bragging rights [Re: dredpir8roberts]
drumholio Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 09/05/00
Loc: Tullahoma, TN
I guess no one cares about this thread. 58 Downloads of my tenor thing,44 downloads of beardo's snare thing and 2 votes. Yeah, just another example of people wanting the free music but not wanting to contribute. Eventually, it will get to the point where no one wants to post music on this site because of this kind of stuff.
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#161853 - 05/07/08 10:47 AM Re: DLO solo bragging rights [Re: drumholio]
snarepaint Offline


Registered: 06/13/03
Finally got a chance to check these out-

The snare lick was challenging, but had an overuse of off-the-left parts with no flow to it.

The quad lick was better for flow and the readability of the part was better. I also appreciate licks that don't need scv 92 to be played well.

So add my vote in for the Quad lick.
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#161861 - 05/07/08 02:19 PM Re: DLO solo bragging rights [Re: snarepaint]
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Registered: 05/15/03
Loc: Somerset, New Jersey
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Edited by drumcorpbc (05/10/08 08:36 PM)
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