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#159526 - 03/19/08 10:35 PM Perc for marching and brass for concert?
JacketTenor3 Offline


Registered: 09/26/07
Loc: Rammer Jammer Alabamer
I currently play the trombone in the band, and the flippin thing got tore up during marching season due to me and 2 other people dropping it. So I want to play something in the percussion section, as i have for 4 years now (I'm going to be a sophmore next year.) The problem with that is that the band is getting bigger, but the percussion is getting a lot more freshmen than the low brass, 10 added to 5 in perc to 5-6 in low brass, only one being trombone, and from what I have heard, she is goin out for the danceline. I have been practicing my rudiments and exercises for far to long for me just to give up. May and the end of the year is fast approaching, what do you think I should do?
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#159527 - 03/19/08 10:51 PM Re: Perc for marching and brass for concert? [Re: JacketTenor3]
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Registered: 05/12/03
Loc: St. Louis, MO
Play trombone. A band without a good low brass section is a weak and thin sounding band. There are plenty of percussionists coming in.
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#159528 - 03/19/08 11:21 PM Re: Perc for marching and brass for concert? [Re: drumcorpbc]
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Registered: 02/24/07
If you love doing both Then I would say go Trombone because it sounds like they need you, but if you rather play in perc then do that.

It all comes down to what you want to do because if you doing something you hate its going to sound like that.

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#159529 - 03/20/08 09:48 PM Re: Perc for marching and brass for concert? [Re: nasti]
JacketTenor3 Offline


Registered: 09/26/07
Loc: Rammer Jammer Alabamer
The thing is I quit percussion last year to play trombone, but then marching band came around and I missed it so much and I got so mad at myself; I never signed up for trombone, except last year, and since I hadn't played trobone in over a year at the time, my skill with both was equal.


I don't hate playing the trombone, I just really don't like it and never have, except a 4 month period last year. I'm not the best trombone player anyways, being last chair in all low brass for the plast 2 years (though I was fourth out of seven at my old school) I just think I have spent to much time just for it to go to waste. I'm thinking about goin one year, or trying, then deciding from there, as there will be plenty of seventh graders coming up the year after next in regards of low brass.


P.S. the only reason I got trombone is because I had access to one my uncle had when he was in band IN 1984! and then a flute of the same year.
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08-09 (Motown) Trombone
09-10 (TBA) anything on the drumline

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#159530 - 03/24/08 12:52 AM Re: Perc for marching and brass for concert? [Re: JacketTenor3]
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Registered: 02/12/08
Loc: OH-IO
I also do the same thing, just not quite in the prediciment as you

Trombone for concert, precussion for marching, I would have to say, to talk to your band director, if he really needs you on trombone, give it a go, its A LOT easier to make a hornline for big corps then a battery, notice how the battery dosnt usually have spots open while their are recruiters everywhere throwing out money (for the same corp) to get some horn players

That is all assuming you want to march a corp, most trombonists go in and march baritone bugle

But, If you really wanna do drums, and your BD gives you the OK, go back, The BD is a powerfull person, and if you can get a high ranking percussion spot, he juust might be able to pull some strings and manipulate people like the cymbal players (who usually are mad for not having a big roll) to play a horn
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#159531 - 03/27/08 10:03 PM Re: Perc for marching and brass for concert? [Re: 9Volt]
Gnome Offline


Registered: 08/05/05
Loc: Charlotte,Nc
Im a sax player through and through. I've played it for 8 years of my life. I play alto and tenor and love jazz. I teach Jazz ensemble at my school (im a 12th grader) and I play Tenor in Wind ensemble. Im a marching percussist with 3 years experience, having played a year on bass and two on tenors. I was captain of the drumline this year.

-Justin

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#159532 - 03/27/08 11:27 PM Re: Perc for marching and brass for concert? [Re: Gnome]
GurrillaWarsnare Offline


Registered: 12/25/06
Loc: Dayton Ohio
I'm first chair trumpet in concert band and center snare for marching band and although I have never been in this position I can honestly say I rather put on a great show while marching brass then just an ok show with weak brass and good percussion.
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#159533 - 03/30/08 11:04 PM Re: Perc for marching and brass for concert? [Re: GurrillaWarsnare]
JacketTenor3 Offline


Registered: 09/26/07
Loc: Rammer Jammer Alabamer
thank you all the posts.

I have just written and sent a long email to my band director. I just hope he will let me play.
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2006-07 (Middle School) percussion and trombone
2007-08 (Latin Sounds) Trombone
08-09 (Motown) Trombone
09-10 (TBA) anything on the drumline

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#159534 - 04/05/08 08:50 PM Re: Perc for marching and brass for concert? [Re: JacketTenor3]
JacketTenor3 Offline


Registered: 09/26/07
Loc: Rammer Jammer Alabamer
Well, it was an intersting conversation, even though I siad nothing, except at the end.
Here is what I said in the email:

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I have been waiting for the time to ask you this since band camp last semester. I'm going to ask straight up: Could I march percussion for marching season, and either percussion or trombone for concert season?

Yes, there are PLENTY 8th grade percussionists coming up next year, and only 3-5 low brass coming, but I have practiced many things.

Some just like 8 on a Hand, or even a watered down version of Santa Clara Vanguard's Electric Wheelchair and snare part to Double Beat. Granted I don't not all 40 PAS rudiments, but I do know most of them, but I'm sure that it will not take me long to learn the rest. I own a Vic Firth Slimpad and Quadropad, and they have helped me not to develop much of "pad hands." The Quadropad is built to be the exact specifications of a normal set of tenors, and it has helped me to develop at least some technique for the set. The slimpad mimics the feel of a kevlar heads snare. I got Electric Wheelchair on Friday, and I have sight read it over 10 times, but with no metronome, as I do not have one, but I should have on this week. 8 on a hand, doubles, 6's, on snare, the same on tenors, but with added ratamacue exercises, are the things I play almost every day.

I have wanted to march percussion for as long as I can remember, and I have drummed for as long as I can remember, also. I never wanted to play trombone, I just got it since my uncle owned one he never uses, and hasn't used since the 80's, the same on I still use today. I know the musical importance of Low brass, but I don't have as much fun as I did when the middle school played at their home games. I am not the best trombone player because I never really try to play, except on some days when I'm in the mood to play it. I would try if I only played it for concert season and percussion for marching. When I practice my percussion, I am devoted to it; I have fun in the process, whether it be watching DCI videos, videos of anything percussion, listening to mp3s of other lines, or practicing myself. When I wrote and gave you those cadences, it was to give you a hint that I could play and read percussion. I memorized most for Aztec fire by when the line played it. I memorized all parts of the cadences, and it is a part of my warm ups also. At the Christmas Parade, when my trombone was damaged after I dropped at the last practice, I hoped that I could play the middle bas because Cadarius wasn't there (also you gave me the wrong trombone part, 1st part instead of second.) The only reason I left it last year was that I failed 2 pass offs on mallets, but now, since I have had time to really practice, it would be easy.

All I ask, is just one year. If I don't like it I'll leave and go trombone, If I do, well I would want to stay. I can't wait another year, I have already waited over 5 years to at least try it. I am not very good at it because I have had to teach myself, and that is another reason why I want to play. I am willing to put 14-45 pounds on my back for 5 months, and then again if we somehow get an indoor program, competitive or not. I spent $60 on a PAS membership in February, and I do not want that to go to waste either.




He eventually said that, he wouldn't even consider it in the first place, then he found it comical that he should let me play percussion when I don't try 100% on trombone.

When we talk to him at spring concert (we, as in me and my parents) we are going to say that,

A. it is not my trombone, it is my uncles
B. we are not going to rent one from him or a music store, because we already have spent a few hundred dollars on what I WANT TO PLAY.
C. just because I don't try 100% on trombone doesn't mean that i won't on percussion, for example, my mother worked as an ER nurse, and she HATED it, and didn't give 100%, but when she got t what she Wanted, baby delivery, and such, see gave 110%; also, my current events teacher, doen't EVER give 100% in my class, but when he is coaching the wrestleing teams, he gets Coach of the Year in the county.


My only fear is, that if, and when I play percussion, i will not like it, for whatever the reason.


oh, my uncle is a leader at the Alabama Musical Educators Association.
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2006-07 (Middle School) percussion and trombone
2007-08 (Latin Sounds) Trombone
08-09 (Motown) Trombone
09-10 (TBA) anything on the drumline

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#159535 - 04/05/08 11:26 PM Re: Perc for marching and brass for concert? [Re: JacketTenor3]
Cadet311 Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Loc: North NJ
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C. just because I don't try 100% on trombone doesn't mean that i won't on percussion, for example, my mother worked as an ER nurse, and she HATED it, and didn't give 100%, but when she got t what she Wanted, baby delivery, and such, see gave 110%; also, my current events teacher, doen't EVER give 100% in my class, but when he is coaching the wrestleing teams, he gets Coach of the Year in the county.






And this is why I would not take your point seriously. If you're not trying to be 100% at what you're doing now, why would something new change that? This shows that you're not getting what you want, therefore you're not applying yourself and hurting the ensemble. By not applying yourself 100%, you're showing a case of "Take My Ball and Go Home" syndrome.
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