My school just ordered 3 sets of Yamaha tenors, which is awesome. The problem is, I've never played tenors. All I really know about them is what I've seen my old instructors and drum corps play.

Based on what others have told me, we should use the vega tenor stick and Remo smooth white ambassador heads. Are these wise choices?

Not necessarily.

If you're going to be using "big block" tenors (sized 10-12-13-14), the Vegas are a really comfortable implement. They're not the only good choice out there, but they're a common favorite. If you're using a smaller set of drums (8-10-12-13), I think you'll find the Vegas and most other snare-length sticks too long. The 'airspace' over a small block set of tenors is a few inches smaller from side to side and a long stick can make it awkward to get around the drum, particularly when crossing over.

If you've got small block tenors, mallets may be the way to go. (The Vic Firth MT1A-S are my favorites, by far.) Not only are they shorter, making it a little easier to get around the drums, the rounded head takes a little bit of the excess brightness off the sound. If you want the sound of a stick, I find the Vater MV11 snare stick works well for getting around small block drums.

Moving on to heads, Smooth White Ambassadors are great heads... for a bass drum. Being thin single-ply heads, they'd get eaten alive on tenors, though. (They're not marketed as marching tenor heads for good reason.) You most likely meant Smooth White Emperors, which are decent and durable, but wouldn't be my first choice for the four main drums. They make an excellent spock head, though. They take high tension really well.

There are actually a few good head options out there, depending on what size drums you have and what sound you're looking for. If I had to blindly recommend a head to someone, I think I'd lean toward the Remo Renaissance Emperor. It's articulate, but still has a lot of warmth to its sound. It's very tonal, so you'll have to pay close attention to tuning. (When I marched 'em in drum corps, it seemed like we were tuning every meal break.) If you don't make sure each head is balanced and in tune with the other guys in the line, you'll get a nasty dissonance. But when those things are in tune, they sing.

Other good options include the Remo Suede Emperors, Evans MX Frost, Evans MX White, and the good ol' Remo Pinstripe. New Yamaha tenors come stock with Pinstripes, so you might as well try 'em out before moving on to something else.

Speaking of the Pinstripe... It's a good head, but I kinda got tired of dealing with air pockets in new Pinstripe heads. (It's an occasional defect -- you can search these forums for more info.) It's easily fixed by poking a small hole in the bottom ply with a needle to let the air escape, but I got annoyed when it started to seem like every set of tenor heads came with at least one that needed to be 'pinned'.

True looks like we found out why they're called pinstripes :P. But, I thought the pinstripes that came with Yamaha were the 'duds' that Remo made?

No, they're regular Pinstripe heads. The only difference is that they've got a Yamaha logo instead of the Remo crown logo.

Yamaha is the only one of the "big 3" manufacturers that ships all their higher-end marching drums with decent heads: White Max on snares, Pinstripe on tenors, Smooth White Ambassador on bass. Dynasty ships all their drums with their own Mylar heads. Pearl uses their own mylar heads on snares & tenors, but I think they might use Smooth White Ambassador bass heads.

What does Yamaha put on the bottom of their snare heads?

Correcting my earlier post, Yamaha actually ships a Falam II top head on their SFZ & MTS snares. Their stock bottom is a clear Remo Ambassador marching snare side head.

About the tenors, I would prefer, Evans MX Frosted over any remo head. and as far as sticks, on large sets, sticks like the vegas are excellent, but I would actually use MT4A's for their durability and rebound. On Small block you should use MT1's.

we use mx frosted and i love em now we use the black mx heads which are also good

As skydogg said, the good 'ol pinstripes

Douple ply, pretty durable, and their like the classic tenor head, Their easy to tune, they dont lose tune very fast, and their just reliable, The airpocket that was mentioned, Ive had a good, 10 pinstripes come my way, (drumset and tenors) and Ive yet to find one with that malfunction, but ive heard from many people it is a fairly common problem

And, You really cant go wrong with the vic firth Mt1A-S or even the Mt1A period, They will work on big OR small block tenors, unless you like the feel of wood over the mallet grip, (and if you have big blocks, I would stay shy of vegas if your using the small block 8,10,12,13 set up) but also remember, wood breaks A LOT more often then metal mallets do

for Yamaha drums... good choice on the heads but my line uses Vic-Firth but all in all its your choice

i don't know much about heads but my line uses remo weatherkings.

"WeatherKing" is a name that Remo applies to most/all their plastic heads. They started using that name in the late '50s to differentiate their plastic heads, which are nearly immune to varying heat and humidity, from traditional skin heads. All of the Remo heads that have been listed so far in this thread probably have the "WeatherKing" name on them (just above the actual model name).

i never knew that but i would recommend remos.

use remo pinstripes or crinplocks
as for the sticks i would use the Mt1as (silvers) mallets and the tom aungst tenor hybrid stick

I would suggest picking up a pair of FT-1 mallets, and TS-1 sticks. Both of these are made by Innovative Percussion (whom I prefer over Vic Firth). As for heads, I would suggest Evans Clear heads.

I agree with the heads for the tenors but i would use the vic firth tenor sticks

To go with the sticks, I figure I could throw this in. What kind of sound are you looking for, the sound of a snare drum stick, or a tenor mallet.

If you are looking for the snare stick sharp attack sound, and you are on the small block tenors, Go with the Aungst hybrid. It is basically a tenor stick, made from wood, with a few modifications, Such as a taper before the actual head. Its a tenor mallet that feels and sounds like a stick basically.

For the nice fat mallet sound, As I suggested before, Mt1A-S, They are much more durable then the Mt1A counterpart. They are on average around 2-5$ more then the Mt1A, but They will last longer. Plus the Silver looks nicer in my opinion.

In this post I'm talking about a middle school line and I will refer to them as 'we'. We use ralph hardimons (tenor) because of the bolder sound I think that can be achieved from them. Also since we are on smaller tenors the shorter length helps with cross-overs and such. The heads we use are the remo weatherking crimplock pinstripes.

it really just depends on personal preference and the size of the drum

Umm I don't like the choice of Yamaha.. But not bad.
Vegas are always a good choice.

DO NOT GET SMOOTH WHITE.
They do not project. The white coating on it dampens the sound and cuts the volume.
Go with something clear.
Pinstripes are a common and good choiice.
Pinstripe Crimp locked.
The only coated head I like would be Emperor Suedes.


Soo ground rules for tenor heads to me would be.
Double ply
Clear or Sueded
Crimplocked.

Vegas aren't always a good choice. They're great on larger drums, but have you ever tried to get around a set of small-block tenors with them? Many sticks, including the Vegas, tend to feel a bit long and awkward on smaller drums.

Smooth White heads don't have a coating. They're simply a thick head that plays and sounds like a thick head. They can be tuned to sound good, but they won't have the ring of a Rennaisance, Suede, or even Pinstripe. Choose the head that's right for the sound you're looking for.

Here's the thing about sticks on small blocks: It is very possible to use the combination and do well, it's just the success rate is much smaller than mallets on small blocks.

What I've also heard, but never tried, is that the Colin McNutt snare stick (VF) sounds really good on tenors, and correct me if I'm wrong, but Blue Stars did just that in '08 (it sure looks a lot like it in the Lot videos).

But with all honesty, unless you're on the Blue Devils drumline, you probably won't have much crossover material to deal with. Just do what you want as far as sticks/mallets go, and (though it sounds harsh) learn to deal with what you have.

Heads: I agree with an earlier post: get something clear or translucent. Doesn't really matter if it's Remo or Evans, you'll get a good set of heads either way.

Yep, sounds decent, and I like the feel of the stick. But since it's a full-length 17" stick, it can be a little difficult to navigate around small block drums.



I've gotta disagree with you there. Crossovers are a staple of modern tenor drumming at any competitive level, including high school.



Remo and Evans both have some good heads on the market, but I'd avoid the Evans MS Clear, especially on small block drums. Their sound is just waaaay too bright. I mentioned some good heads earlier, and not all of 'em are clear or translucent.

I honestly was basing what I said about our music at CNHS, which is pretty challenging, but has almost no crossovers whatsoever in the music. But you're right. High school drumlines could and probably will have crossover passages, just nothing like you'll se in BD.

But enough of that. Let's get back on topic, shall we?

No, yall should go with remo weatherkings and innovative mallets or shortys by innovative percussion

My kids have a hard time getting around the smaller drums with Vegas, yet for some reason they prefer them anyway. I like the new Tom Aungst hybrids, I think they are easier to get around the small drums with and I love the quality of sound they produce.

Pinstripes? Suedes? Renaissance? Smooth White Emperors? Each is a very different head, but they all have the "WeatherKing" name on them.

Remo used the WeatherKing name on their early plastic heads because they're a whole lot more resistant to humidity and temperature than the traditional calfskin heads they replaced. The name is used across Remo's product line nowadays.

And while Remo does make good heads, they're not the only good heads on the market. Don't be a slave to brand names. Use what sounds good to you, whether it's made by Remo, Evans, or someone else.



Probably the "cool factor". Lines like BD use 'em and it's natural for kids to want to emulate people they look up to, even if it's not practical.

That probably has a big roll in it. They also feel really nice off the drums, a lot nicer then the Mallets or Aungsts do, a lot of bounce back from the head. But they are truley a pain to move around the drums.