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#163326 - 05/27/08 06:28 PM Why are warmups boring?
tension_bolt Offline


Registered: 08/11/03
Loc: Norway
Hello everyone.

I instruct an independent line. Our members have pretty much no experience doing drumline "drumline-style". They have experience from military bands and concert bands, and most of them joined because they thought it sounded like an exciting project. So, things are going fairly well, but there is one problem though. They think that working on warmups and technique as a line is BORING. They´re not focused during our warmups, and it seems like they just do it because I tell them to. I know that if they were really into it and gave it as much focus as it demands, this would not be the case. How can I, as an instructor, make our warmup sessions more intense, and make it more interesting for them? And finally, how does one get them in the right mindset so that progress can be achieved?


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#163331 - 05/27/08 07:04 PM Re: Why are warmups boring? [Re: tension_bolt]
CarrollDrummer Online   content


Registered: 12/17/07
Loc: USA
Ok, I had this problem with freshmen last year in my line. During warmups they really had no focus whatsoever, and that led to no focus during rehersal. Here are some things you can do to remedy that situation.

-Write fun warmups Or find some that are fun to play
-I dont know if you do this already, but if you don't it might help if you play along with your students while they do the warmup exercises. This way you teach by example and it shows your students that in order to get good, they have to do these. It's not an easy pill to swallow for some, but eventually they will get the point
-after the warmup play some thing that really jams. This gets the students excited about playing.

I hope that these help
Robbie
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#163344 - 05/27/08 08:42 PM Re: Why are warmups boring? [Re: CarrollDrummer]
9Volt Offline


Registered: 02/12/08
Loc: OH-IO
You could get them a really advanced warmup, that'll keep 'em busy for a while, trying to learn it, and usually the really advanced warmups, once you conquer them, pretty much fun to play

Something like double beat?
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#163373 - 05/27/08 10:19 PM Re: Why are warmups boring? [Re: 9Volt]
jacoismyhero Offline


Registered: 11/28/05
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
The point of warm ups is to work on basic things. By making warm ups more difficult note-wise than necessary, it loses effectiveness in that it means less time teaching technique (and other more "important" music, i.e. show music) and more time teaching the notes in the warm ups.

One thing I've found helpful is drumming to music, rather than a metronome. With groups that aren't necessarily in it to be "hardcorps," using other methods beyond the Dr. Beat is essential to keeping interest. Remember that they are partcipating for fun and excitement, and approach that attitude accordingly. By finding a couple songs at different tempi, it becomes much more interesting to play 8s. Swing jazz is good for triple diddle warm ups. Funk is good for Sanford-style double beat exercises.
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#163391 - 05/27/08 11:36 PM Re: Why are warmups boring? [Re: jacoismyhero]
Ironman7 Offline


Registered: 02/22/04
Loc: Springfield M.A
First of all the thigns I consider "warm ups" are 8 on a hand and 25 legatos. Otherwise I call what my lines play exercises. An exercise works a specific skill or group of skills...a warm up does just what the name implies.

As to your question I would say write your own charts. When I write its all about writting somethign that is functional, fun to play and something you would enjoy listening to(over and over and over). Like anything else no one wants to play something thats boring to play and listen to.
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#163496 - 05/28/08 09:47 PM Re: Why are warmups boring? [Re: Ironman7]
DigitalDrummer Offline


Registered: 10/03/06
Loc: TX
write some cool groove warmups that develop skills as well as, well, warm the drummers up. If you don't want to write any, Revolution has some good groove warm-ups that also do a good job of developing technique. www.revolutionypa.org
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#164362 - 06/05/08 02:36 PM Re: Why are warmups boring? [Re: tension_bolt]
Smoothe Offline


Registered: 05/19/08
Loc: Virginia
come up wit some new ones..
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#164369 - 06/05/08 03:56 PM Re: Why are warmups boring? [Re: Smoothe]
SnareFlare Offline


Registered: 05/04/08
Loc: Florida
Gotta eat the vegetables before you get the dessert, if you know what I mean.
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#164438 - 06/06/08 12:42 PM Re: Why are warmups boring? [Re: SnareFlare]
Pantera0001 Offline


Registered: 12/19/07
Loc: the lonestar state
Honestly, I think we live in a society where people want there own way too much when it comes to an organization, a job, or whatever discipline. That group needs to conform to the organization that they come under, not the other way around. When I was in drumline, the band director or drumline instructor was the last word. We drilled boring marching techniques & drumline fundamentals all day long at camp because we knew the outcome...excellence. Making things fun is what pre-school teachers do to make little kids mind. Honestly, Tension- Bolt your line just needs to grow up & follow your direction, boring warm-ups or exciting warm-ups. You make the call...Good luck & Best wishes...



Edited by Pantera0001 (06/06/08 04:28 PM)

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#165340 - 06/19/08 05:39 AM Re: Why are warmups boring? [Re: Pantera0001]
wilddrummer Offline
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Registered: 03/09/08
what one of my instructors did was he had someone play a really cool beat on the drumset while we played 8's at the same tempo. He said for us to groove with it, we didn't have to stand perfectly staight. After a few minutes we were all goovin and it made the warmup fun.

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