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#165048 - 06/15/08 08:30 PM black tape
onespockadam Offline


Registered: 06/01/08
Loc: texas
Does anybody use black tape at all on their lines? I'm posting this in bass because my line uses it on bass and i was wondering who else does.
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#165051 - 06/15/08 08:45 PM Re: black tape [Re: onespockadam]
scchsdrummer Offline
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Registered: 01/03/08
Loc: Odenville, Alabama USA
i don't recall us ever using black but if had something to do w/ the theme im sure we would. my rookie year we taped the sticks in red and white for the christmas parade and then when we marched St. Patrick's Day Parade that year we taped them in green so. like i said i imagine if it had something to do w/ the theme we might but normally we just use white
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#165209 - 06/17/08 04:57 PM Re: black tape [Re: scchsdrummer]
onespockadam Offline


Registered: 06/01/08
Loc: texas
we just do it black because it sticks out more against the white head.
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Vista Ridge High School, TX
Freshman 08-09, Quint section leader (though I am the only quint player smile )...3rd at PASIC High School Standstill with best snares.

Our line's [small] numbers;
basses:4 snares:4 quints:1



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#165210 - 06/17/08 05:17 PM Re: black tape [Re: onespockadam]
scchsdrummer Offline
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Registered: 01/03/08
Loc: Odenville, Alabama USA
makes sense i guess. i have no idea why we use white..tradition i suppose who knows
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Sophmore '08 - '09 Tenors
Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl

Freshman '07 - '08 Bass 4 (bottom)
The Sound of Patriotism

8th Grade '06 - '07 Cymbals
Earth Wind & Fire

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#165214 - 06/17/08 06:14 PM Re: black tape [Re: scchsdrummer]
onespockadam Offline


Registered: 06/01/08
Loc: texas
well we did use white, but we got a new instructor, im waiting to see how it works out this year with him.
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Vista Ridge High School, TX
Freshman 08-09, Quint section leader (though I am the only quint player smile )...3rd at PASIC High School Standstill with best snares.

Our line's [small] numbers;
basses:4 snares:4 quints:1



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#165222 - 06/17/08 09:51 PM Re: black tape [Re: onespockadam]
KDraque Offline


Registered: 05/06/08
Loc: Ohio
An explanation I've heard, is, if you've got really freakin' sweet zones on the basses, like everyone plays in the center of the head, why not show it off? You can see the black on the white better. The reason most high school lines use white tape is because they don't necessarily all play in the center of the head. I know my freshman year I didn't always play in the center of the head. It's kinda like giving the awesome snareline a longer break than the bad tenorline or suttin, ya know? I'm not sayin the snarelines are always better or anythin' but I hope you catch my drift. It's to show off what ya got, if ya got it. And if not, then to make your basses play in the center of the head, otherwise everyone will know.
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#165237 - 06/18/08 01:18 AM Re: black tape [Re: KDraque]
onespockadam Offline


Registered: 06/01/08
Loc: texas
yeah we have a sophmore on 1, a sophmore on 2 a, a sophmore on 3, a freshman on 4 and a senior on 5. not too experianced so i guess the tape is for motivation.
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Vista Ridge High School, TX
Freshman 08-09, Quint section leader (though I am the only quint player smile )...3rd at PASIC High School Standstill with best snares.

Our line's [small] numbers;
basses:4 snares:4 quints:1



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#165245 - 06/18/08 08:04 AM Re: black tape [Re: onespockadam]
snarepaint Offline


Registered: 06/13/03
Originally Posted By: KDraque
The reason most high school lines use white tape is because they don't necessarily all play in the center of the head.


Where did you get that gem from?

The only way that would even have a remote chance of being accurate is if every HS used a white top head, never changed playing zones and the staff was silly enough to have kids marching that can't find the center of a 13 or 14" inch circle.
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#165247 - 06/18/08 09:48 AM Re: black tape [Re: snarepaint]
SkyDog Offline


Registered: 12/29/05
I can see where he might think white tape against a white bass head could be used to hide. But we all know -- well, we almost all know -- that's not why it's used.

White tape is used on snares and tenors precisely because it is visible. It shows up bright in daylight and especially under lights, and it contrasts well to shadows and other colors (uniforms, etc.). Now, with this in mind, does it sound like we drummers would try to chicken out and hide when it comes to something as easy as simply holding the mallet in the middle of a bass head?

Now for some speculation... When it came time to tape bass mallets, what color tape do we already have laying around? White! It also looks good from a uniformity standpoint since it matches the snares and tenors. And since it's the same color as the felts, it looks good on the mallet, too.

When I was in high school, I experimented with a pair of practice mallets by dyeing the felt black. It actually turned out pretty well and was obviously visible against the head. I think the best part about it was that dirt on the mallet head was pretty much invisible. The black head with a white shaft was a nice visual effect, but it was simply too much work to dye every mallet. I also don't know how well the dye would've held up over time.

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#165260 - 06/18/08 12:51 PM Re: black tape [Re: SkyDog]
thecrazybassgirl Offline


Registered: 05/26/07
Loc: USA
I actually was having this conversation with my father, when I was trying to explain that I needed him to buy me white tape. "Why white?" he asked only 5 thousand times, "We have red and black and green lying around here somewhere. Why does it have to be white?" Now I know what to tell him, haha.

The funny thing is, our basses still have black heads from indoor season, so the white tape makes it stand out even more.
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#165271 - 06/18/08 01:49 PM Re: black tape [Re: thecrazybassgirl]
onespockadam Offline


Registered: 06/01/08
Loc: texas
thats quite odd.
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Vista Ridge High School, TX
Freshman 08-09, Quint section leader (though I am the only quint player smile )...3rd at PASIC High School Standstill with best snares.

Our line's [small] numbers;
basses:4 snares:4 quints:1



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#165299 - 06/18/08 09:35 PM Re: black tape [Re: onespockadam]
drumicide Offline


Registered: 02/26/08
Loc: CentralTX
We do black, because it sticks out against the white drum heads. We do white for tenors and snares because they stick out against the black of our uniforms.

It's all visual. =0

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#165307 - 06/18/08 09:57 PM Re: black tape [Re: drumicide]
onespockadam Offline


Registered: 06/01/08
Loc: texas
thats what im saying!
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Vista Ridge High School, TX
Freshman 08-09, Quint section leader (though I am the only quint player smile )...3rd at PASIC High School Standstill with best snares.

Our line's [small] numbers;
basses:4 snares:4 quints:1



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#165477 - 06/20/08 12:52 PM Re: black tape [Re: onespockadam]
maskeddrummer Offline


Registered: 06/17/05
Loc: Florissant,MO
The line i'm on uses black tape for the bass mallets, I never really knew why though, I'm thinking about going to ask our instructor some time why black tape.
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#166782 - 07/02/08 02:39 PM Re: black tape [Re: maskeddrummer]
onespockadam Offline


Registered: 06/01/08
Loc: texas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP4cgThKQTs

look at their bass mallets, they're near invisible.
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Vista Ridge High School, TX
Freshman 08-09, Quint section leader (though I am the only quint player smile )...3rd at PASIC High School Standstill with best snares.

Our line's [small] numbers;
basses:4 snares:4 quints:1



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#166788 - 07/02/08 03:43 PM Re: black tape [Re: onespockadam]
PolyesterHemiola Offline


Registered: 10/28/03
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: onespockadam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP4cgThKQTs

look at their bass mallets, they're near invisible.


Yes, but when they're at full extension it's a different story. Look at their heights BELOW the drum. That's why they use white tape. The sweet height extension would get lost with black tape. Crown Bass is rockin' some bada$$ heights this year!


Edited by PolyesterHemiola (07/02/08 03:47 PM)
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#166916 - 07/03/08 10:38 PM Re: black tape [Re: PolyesterHemiola]
A7xDrummer27 Offline


Registered: 06/19/08
Loc: Connecticut
i think tape should be white on any sick/mallet. i dont know about anyone else but we do more than a couple clicks in our shows and the rim shooters eat up the tape. if the tape was black then you would see the "chew" (for lack of better words) spots on the mallets
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#167065 - 07/05/08 04:56 PM Re: black tape [Re: A7xDrummer27]
Gernads Offline


Registered: 02/10/07
Loc: Chesterland, Ohio
I tried taping sticks black once. And as A7xDrummer27 said, you can see where the tape is being chewed up more on black-taped stick rather than sticks that are taped white. You could tape them black to go with the theme of a show I suppose. But I think white gives a better look overall.
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#167095 - 07/06/08 12:03 PM Re: black tape [Re: Gernads]
TJCTopBass Offline


Registered: 03/23/08
in the lines i have marched we taped regular mallets white and the puffys black, no clue why? we used black heads, so the puffys disapear when placed over the head. its pretty cool!
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#167105 - 07/06/08 02:27 PM Re: black tape [Re: TJCTopBass]
A7xDrummer27 Offline


Registered: 06/19/08
Loc: Connecticut
^^^thats alittle wierd
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07 Continuum - Bass Line - MAC Outstanding Percussion
08 Science of Music - Bass Line - WGI PSO Silver Medalist
08 Firebird - Snare Line

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#167115 - 07/06/08 05:28 PM Re: black tape [Re: A7xDrummer27]
paradawhat Offline


Registered: 09/21/05
Using a youtube video to prove a point...ok... It's awful quality if you see a higher quality video of Crown's bass line it's sick. They're so defined. Or seeing them live. Oh boy I can't wait for DCI finals laugh


Edited by paradawhat (07/06/08 05:28 PM)
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#167159 - 07/07/08 02:01 AM Re: black tape [Re: paradawhat]
PolyesterHemiola Offline


Registered: 10/28/03
Loc: USA
True, the clips weren't the clearest, but I've seen worse on youtube. Nothing wrong with using it to make a point. Actually, it helped me make mine about the heights below the drum. wink
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Pioneer 1997-1998 Quads/Snare
Blue Knights Percussion Ensemble 1998 - Quads (WGI)
Crown 1999 Quads

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#167183 - 07/07/08 02:54 PM Re: black tape [Re: PolyesterHemiola]
paradawhat Offline


Registered: 09/21/05
hah. Go to crown's website and check out their fan network stuff. They have a video of the basses and it's just like omg have my babies! The video is called crown minute #9


Edited by paradawhat (07/07/08 02:56 PM)
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#167187 - 07/07/08 03:22 PM Re: black tape [Re: paradawhat]
dredpir8roberts Offline


Registered: 10/23/07
I just watched crown minute #35... why am I not surprised that the lot footage for a Lee Beddis drumline is all tracking

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#167206 - 07/07/08 07:09 PM Re: black tape [Re: paradawhat]
onespockadam Offline


Registered: 06/01/08
Loc: texas
Originally Posted By: paradawhat
Using a youtube video to prove a point...ok... It's awful quality if you see a higher quality video of Crown's bass line it's sick. They're so defined. Or seeing them live. Oh boy I can't wait for DCI finals laugh


That video was just an example, i could've used quite a few videos.

BTW:Crowns bass line is very sick.
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Vista Ridge High School, TX
Freshman 08-09, Quint section leader (though I am the only quint player smile )...3rd at PASIC High School Standstill with best snares.

Our line's [small] numbers;
basses:4 snares:4 quints:1



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#174720 - 11/29/08 04:39 AM Re: black tape [Re: thecrazybassgirl]
Bacon Offline


Registered: 11/29/08
Loc: California, US
Lol, our line has used every color.

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