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#145727 - 07/01/07 08:48 PM Re: grip style [Re: lzd1991]
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Registered: 06/01/07
Loc: North!!!, Alabama
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Yeah, i just wanted to know who used what grip style. i thought most groups used tradish on snare, (not including my school.)




In my neck of the woods most lines do use trad. I can't think of any local lines off that top of my head that I've seen recently playing matched. But as has already been stated learning both will only make you better so not too much to worry about.
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#145728 - 07/02/07 06:26 PM Re: grip style [Re: lzd1991]
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My school uses traditional, and all the groups I know of in Indiana do too. Only when we went to Ohio for WGI did I see groups that used matched grip on their snare lines. Since I've been playing traditional for a while, I find it much more comfortable on snare, but less on drumset (unless it's jazz).

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#145729 - 07/11/07 01:00 AM Re: grip style [Re: ]
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Well my drum corp used traditional also since it has a firm, tight grip, i think that match you can easily lose the control of it but that is just my opinion

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#168927 - 08/06/08 11:39 AM Re: grip style [Re: Anonymous]
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Registered: 08/04/08
Loc: Bakersfield, California
Last year our line used traditional, but this year our instructor has yet to teach the incoming freshmen to do traditional. I have no idea when this is going to happen, but I hope it does. Until then, we'll be stuck playing match grip.

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#168931 - 08/06/08 12:58 PM Re: grip style [Re: Percussionisto]
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Registered: 08/03/08
Loc: TN
No offense to your instructor, but its a bad idea doing that. The longer the freshman play traditional grip the more comfortable they will be. Sometimes the transition from playing matched to traditional is difficult for everyone because you use completely different muscles. This can create a very dirty snare line...best of luck to you!

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#168971 - 08/06/08 09:00 PM Re: grip style [Re: PercussionMan]
Percussionisto Offline


Registered: 08/04/08
Loc: Bakersfield, California
I agree completely, and I have no idea why he is doing this. I almost want to teach the freshmen traditional grip myself. Maybe I'll ask my instructor why he's doing it tomorrow. Luckily, our snares are being played by mostly returning band members, but this also means that while part of the line is playing tradish, and the other part is playing matched.

Btw, our line doesn't march, so in between songs, people switch around on instruments. On the first song, we have 2 pretty good snare players playing alongside a freshman and a guy who mostly plays tenors (who plays match). It looks pretty bad.

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#169036 - 08/07/08 11:21 AM Re: grip style [Re: PercussionMan]
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Registered: 12/29/05
Originally Posted By: PercussionMan
No offense to your instructor, but its a bad idea doing that.


There are plenty of very knowledgeable people who would disagree with you. Tom Aungst and Murray Gusseck, just to name two you might heave heard of.

There are some instructors who teach only matched grip to their high school lines. One reason is that it translates easily to other percussion instruments. If an instructor's goal is to teach a well-rounded percussionist, they can teach a student matched grip to use on marching drums, concert drums, drum set, keyboard instruments, timpani... basically any percussion instrument. Traditional grip, on the other hand, is predominantly found only on marching snare drums. (It can be used on drum set or concert snare, but isn't necessary.)

Another reason for matched grip, and I've heard Murray Gusseck talk about this one, is consistency of sound from hand to hand. If it's a goal to make your right and left hands sound the same, what sense does it make to use a different grip and stroke for each hand?

I'm not necessarily advocating a mass switch to matched grip. I actually teach traditional grip to my own snare line. But for those guys who use or teach matched grip, I understand why they do it.

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#169037 - 08/07/08 11:57 AM Re: grip style [Re: SkyDog]
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Registered: 08/03/08
Loc: TN
Originally Posted By: SkyDog
Originally Posted By: PercussionMan
No offense to your instructor, but its a bad idea doing that.


There are plenty of very knowledgeable people who would disagree with you. Tom Aungst and Murray Gusseck, just to name two you might heave heard of.

There are some instructors who teach only matched grip to their high school lines. One reason is that it translates easily to other percussion instruments. If an instructor's goal is to teach a well-rounded percussionist, they can teach a student matched grip to use on marching drums, concert drums, drum set, keyboard instruments, timpani... basically any percussion instrument. Traditional grip, on the other hand, is predominantly found only on marching snare drums. (It can be used on drum set or concert snare, but isn't necessary.)

Another reason for matched grip, and I've heard Murray Gusseck talk about this one, is consistency of sound from hand to hand. If it's a goal to make your right and left hands sound the same, what sense does it make to use a different grip and stroke for each hand?

I'm not necessarily advocating a mass switch to matched grip. I actually teach traditional grip to my own snare line. But for those guys who use or teach matched grip, I understand why they do it.


I understand exactly where you are coming from, but what i was getting at is if the instructor has the intentions of playing traditional later, it will take longer for the new comers to work those muscles up. I must admit myself, i prefer match to traditional on just about everything. I do play traditional on marching snare though.

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#169038 - 08/07/08 12:10 PM Re: grip style [Re: SkyDog]
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Registered: 10/19/03
Loc: Boston, MA
Originally Posted By: SkyDog
Originally Posted By: PercussionMan
No offense to your instructor, but its a bad idea doing that.


There are plenty of very knowledgeable people who would disagree with you. Tom Aungst and Murray Gusseck, just to name two you might heave heard of.

There are some instructors who teach only matched grip to their high school lines. One reason is that it translates easily to other percussion instruments. If an instructor's goal is to teach a well-rounded percussionist, they can teach a student matched grip to use on marching drums, concert drums, drum set, keyboard instruments, timpani... basically any percussion instrument. Traditional grip, on the other hand, is predominantly found only on marching snare drums. (It can be used on drum set or concert snare, but isn't necessary.)

Another reason for matched grip, and I've heard Murray Gusseck talk about this one, is consistency of sound from hand to hand. If it's a goal to make your right and left hands sound the same, what sense does it make to use a different grip and stroke for each hand?

I'm not necessarily advocating a mass switch to matched grip. I actually teach traditional grip to my own snare line. But for those guys who use or teach matched grip, I understand why they do it.


Speaking within directly a battery situation. Playing matched grip can allow for players to take up different drums in order to help the overall line. From what I recall, most of Dartmouth's snare line this year were tenor players last year. They switched because a lot of the snare line graduated.
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#169929 - 08/18/08 03:27 PM Re: grip style [Re: JoeD]
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Registered: 08/17/08
Loc: Northern Virginia
We play matched grip the whole line wants to switch to Traditional but the BD says no as he says we need to get a professional in to teach us.
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