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#30405 - 09/30/07 07:10 PM Re: Hardest Rudiment [Re: Mannineaux]
WCUPerc2012 Offline


Registered: 03/11/07
Loc: West Chester University
Inverted Flam Taps, hands down the hardest to play fast and clean. I can get maybe 120.
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#30406 - 10/01/07 01:28 PM Re: Hardest Rudiment [Re: WCUPerc2012]
Mannineaux Offline


Registered: 03/16/07
Loc: Slidell, Louisiana
Inverts are just really chop demanding. You can get them fast if you really really really work at them. And rudiment that has a double hand up stroke is eally tough to play. But the Flam Parididdle diddle is the hardest to play clean and fast.
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#30407 - 10/10/07 01:16 AM Re: Hardest Rudiment [Re: Mannineaux]
dDrRaGeX Offline


Registered: 04/22/07
Loc: Glendale, CA
Man, you think inverts are hard...try inverted cheeses. I'm just starting them now and contemplating suicide.
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#168467 - 07/30/08 04:37 PM Re: Hardest Rudiment [Re: dDrRaGeX]
FlamFlam49 Offline


Registered: 07/25/08
Loc: Texas
Personally, I have some trouble with the flammed-mills, left-handed flamcues (most people skip these altogether), and left handed swiss army triplets once you get really fast. Cheese inverts can also be a pain fast because they look and feel much more awkward than most rudiments (even other inverted rudiments) because of how little space there is between inverted motions (vs. inverted 3's, inverts, etc.).

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#168488 - 07/31/08 10:36 AM Re: Hardest Rudiment [Re: FlamFlam49]
Pantera0001 Offline


Registered: 12/19/07
Loc: the lonestar state
I had trouble with flam fives.

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#168494 - 07/31/08 01:53 PM Re: Hardest Rudiment [Re: Pantera0001]
Monty Offline


Registered: 07/31/08
Loc: Bridgeport, Connecticut, Unite...
With the flam fives your hands must relax.

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#168496 - 07/31/08 03:12 PM Re: Hardest Rudiment [Re: Monty]
PenniesForSale Offline


Registered: 06/11/08
Loc: Nevada
Flam fives are sort of like six-stroke rolls with the first two notes pushed in together. Practicing those should help.
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#168514 - 07/31/08 10:08 PM Re: Hardest Rudiment [Re: WCUPerc2012]
A7xDrummer27 Offline


Registered: 06/19/08
Loc: Connecticut
Originally Posted By: raidersbass2007
Inverted Flam Taps, hands down the hardest to play fast and clean. I can get maybe 120.


nope cheese inverts are mad harder
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#168521 - 08/01/08 12:19 AM Re: Hardest Rudiment [Re: A7xDrummer27]
9Volt Offline


Registered: 02/12/08
Loc: OH-IO
Well, If we are talking standard rudiments, then I'm pretty sure it goes to the inverted flam tap, Trying to get that fast is pretty much a bee. I was having problems with the flam drag for a long time too. I can play those at a fast tempo all day now, but getting them originally was a pain.

Hybrids, Then the cheese inverts probably take the cake.
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#168564 - 08/01/08 07:20 PM Re: Hardest Rudiment [Re: 9Volt]
A7xDrummer27 Offline


Registered: 06/19/08
Loc: Connecticut
i forgot inverted flam taps were stardard
my b
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