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#35791 - 03/28/04 12:55 AM Re: a very undisciplined drumline [Re: randyg]
Irondrummer Offline


Registered: 08/25/03
Loc: NorthWest, Ohio
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drummermanic said:
ok peope! would you stop talkin bout' the instructer solving everything cause we dont got no instructor. k! stop postin stuff about the instructers or whatever.....




Sounds like somebody needs to step up to the responsibility then.

We have this teacher, goes by Mr. Bell, quite a nice man since I've known him all my life. He's the kind of guy that like to tell stories. So he'll be sittin there behind his desk tellin a story about so-and-so's grandpa in a spedo mowing the lawn while some kids are screwing around on the opposite side of the room that he's looking at. But as soon as something bad happens anywhere in the room he always knows, but he's cool about it he might stop his story for a few seconds to embarass whoever is messing around but never really give them a detention or anything. I hear that a lot of paperwork lately too. But you see there can be a balance of authority and appeal. The more somebody appeals to someone the more they are going to listen to what they say. Try to put yourself in that position where they'll listen to you and accually comprehend what you are saying.
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#35792 - 03/28/04 11:05 PM Re: a very undisciplined drumline [Re: Irondrummer]
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Registered: 03/09/03
Loc: CA
solution... try as hard as you can do be a good leader in your drumline, without an instructor however hard that is. In the meantime, pratice your butt off and join corps.
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#35793 - 03/29/04 09:12 PM Re: a very undisciplined drumline [Re: DrummerBJK]
randyg Offline


Registered: 02/04/04
Loc: Walker, Louisiana
thats is what i definitly plan to due!.........for now southern silverstars then later i will try for mephis sound then southwind...
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#35794 - 03/30/04 09:35 AM Re: a very undisciplined drumline [Re: mantis]
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Registered: 03/16/04
Loc: Michigan
My drumline isn't very disciplined either! I find that it is not a bad idea to let them know who's boss every now and then. I am one of the percussion captains in my drumline and when I am not happy with someone, they will usually get an earfull from me. Sometimes it doesn't hurt to get up in their face about certain things. Especially if you have had to ask them repeatedly to stop doing something!

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#35795 - 04/04/04 10:41 AM Re: a very undisciplined drumline [Re: mantis]
Drum_Mentality Offline


Registered: 05/11/03
Loc: USA
discipline is a section leaders job, that's why he or she is the section LEADER. A section leader is supposed to be a role model for the rest fo the section, they should present good attitude and good practice habits. Being a leader, the person has to take responsiblity for the line, So they need to do what they can to enforce discipline.

An instructor also does the same thing, but they also play the role of the experienced teacher. If they are going to teach a line how to play correctly, he or she must have full attention from everyone. If someone(s) in the drumline is acting up, they must take action and punish the students.
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#35796 - 04/04/04 11:28 AM Re: a very undisciplined drumline [Re: Drum_Mentality]
mantis Offline


Registered: 08/07/03
Loc: †
Section leaders acting as disciplinarians is usually a bad idea...especially in a high school ensemble. It can cause a lot of bitterness and resent among the students...not to mention the fact that most high school section leaders know absolutely nothing about positive/negative reinforcement, how to use it, etc. The section leader should know what the instructor expects, be on the same page, and lead by example. If necessary, it's ok to talk to someone who's dropping the ball behind the scenes, but it's not the section leader's gig to assign punishments and call people out in public/during rehearsal, etc.

And no, that's not why someone is a section leader. Section leaders are typically chosen (in my eyes) because they are responsible, possess the ideal playing ability, and are good leaders (leaders...not punishers).


Edited by mantis (04/04/04 11:32 AM)
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#35797 - 04/04/04 02:26 PM Re: a very undisciplined drumline [Re: mantis]
randyg Offline


Registered: 02/04/04
Loc: Walker, Louisiana
well since we arent goin to state festival we started workin on our show music for next year, and i noticed that all the people started acting with respect towards the bd, i guess maybe it is just durin concert season the want to act up..............otherwise i have no clue what the heck is goin on!
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#35798 - 07/29/04 02:44 PM Re: a very undisciplined drumline [Re: randyg]
jdog Offline


Registered: 07/12/04
I am BIG into discipline and it pays off in how they play. Yes it may cause some to quit or not join but I have a core set of kids that make the ensemble amazing.
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#35799 - 07/29/04 10:40 PM Re: a very undisciplined drumline [Re: Ironman7]
7thRegimentbass1 Offline


Registered: 07/25/04
Loc: Groton, CT
Our drumline in highschool and 7th Regiment are very undiciplined which really bugs me. I didnt join the drumline to fool around and be known as the joksters of teh band/corps. I came to work and to play hard, I do not like being know as someone whos only there because of the guys (knowin im a female drummer) or there just to "hang out" and have fun. Of course you can have fun while in band/corps but goofing off during rehearsal, drill, ensambles isnt the time to do it. Which is one reason why i may just move up to a div 1 corps because from what i have seen from Blue Devils rehearsals and SCV, they are truly responsible and well disiplined. That is the type of drumline i dream of being in.
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#35800 - 08/03/04 02:14 PM Re: a very undisciplined drumline [Re: mantis]
durantdrummer Offline


Registered: 05/07/04
Loc: durant oklahoma
It sounds like you need more sienority in your line or in the band as a whole. In my line if a sienor tells you to tie his shoe you do it or run laps.
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