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#96841 - 10/23/05 08:34 PM Drunk Instructor
Anonymous Unregistered	Problem :i've been in drumline for like 2 years now ...and still know close to nothing about drumming...it sux cause i want to learn ...REALLLy bad but our insructor is a drunk and knows nothing about drumming ...everything our drumline knows we taught ourselves....its sad ...we have like 2 warmups that we do and 3 cadences that we play all the time ...i kno that our drumline could be amazing ...you can tell we have a lot of potential ...but we have no one to help us or to push us to learn new ANYTHING...we aren't given the opportunity to learn anything new ...we HAVE to play wut our instructor wants us to play and thats IT! One of our best players wrote a cadence and the WHOLE drumline wanted to learn it ...we got in trouble ...it wasn't what our instructor wanted us to play ...he says "we can only play what he gives us to play" ...but he doesn't give us ANYTHING ....HELP wut do i do?
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#96842 - 10/23/05 08:39 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: ]
Anonymous Unregistered	tell the director
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#96843 - 10/23/05 08:43 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: ]
Anonymous Unregistered	director doesnt really care *- Edited for double-posting. You have up to six hours to click the Edit button and add thoughts or comments to an existing post. -* well.... j/k... im sure he cares but he doesnt act on it Edited by DLWebmaestro (10/24/05 07:07 AM)
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#96844 - 10/23/05 08:50 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: ]
Anonymous Unregistered	usually instructors get fired for not doing a good job. maybe your band cant afford to get rid of him financially.
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#96845 - 10/23/05 09:23 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: ]
Anonymous Unregistered	well we are a fairly new school so i dont think thats the case...but even if it was ...what i can I do to help the line?
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#96846 - 10/23/05 09:32 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: ]
Cheese Registered: 02/27/05 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA	Talk to your line about it and confront him and your BD as a whole.
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#96847 - 10/24/05 07:05 AM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: Cheese]
Irondrummer Registered: 08/25/03 Loc: NorthWest, Ohio	Give him some coffee with a laxitive when he's hung over. While he's in the bathroom during practice, play whatever the heck you want. _________________________ -Mike FAQ GO BUCKEYES!
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#96848 - 10/24/05 12:02 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: Irondrummer]
Dave_Fry Registered: 05/24/04 Loc: Sanatoga, PA	The obvious answer in this situation to tell the band director...however if the band director decides not to do anything about this, there are ABSOLUTELY other options that you can pursue...you can go to the band boosters (the parent organization that basically runs the band program), or you can go to the school board...tell your principal or any administrative person in your school such as a guidance counselor or something of this nature...they will be FORCED to do something about this, because there are a lot of things that go down behind closed doors that you do not know about...just wanted to let you know that there are many other things that you can go and do... _________________________ As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error. - Weisert Dave Fry -DCA 01' Reading Buccaneers Snareline -Souderton Area High School Percussion Instructor 01-07
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#96849 - 10/24/05 12:56 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: Dave_Fry]
multi-Thomm Registered: 12/31/00 Loc: here	Dave, i find your post ironic.
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#96850 - 10/24/05 01:09 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: multi-Thomm]
Dave_Fry Registered: 05/24/04 Loc: Sanatoga, PA	I don't know what you're talking about... _________________________ As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error. - Weisert Dave Fry -DCA 01' Reading Buccaneers Snareline -Souderton Area High School Percussion Instructor 01-07
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#96851 - 10/24/05 04:35 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: Dave_Fry]
SiKwItIt Registered: 12/31/04 Loc: Connecticut	Fire him Yourself.. If youre the section leader.. Just Tell Him Straight.."The line as a whole doesnt like the way you instruct us and quite frankly you're a drunk and you suck. Hop in your car take a few sips and dont come back until you clean yourself up." If that doesnt work Rebel. Dont listen to him, what can he do. If the line is that good Tell The Band Director its either him or the line. Let Everybody know you're not playing. Tell them how you truly feel. It Should work _________________________ CHS- DIMEline (u kno tha deal) <img src="/threads/images/graemlins/trollfood.gif" alt="" /> 04-05....2nd Snare 05-06....1st Snare-Co-Section Leader
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#96852 - 10/24/05 04:59 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: SiKwItIt]
Anonymous Unregistered	My pit instructor was a drunk... but he knew what he was doing when it came to percussion
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#96853 - 10/24/05 06:16 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: SiKwItIt]
AsianTenorGuy Registered: 07/29/03 Loc: Baton Rouge, Louisiana	Quote: Fire him Yourself.. If youre the section leader.. Just Tell Him Straight.."The line as a whole doesnt like the way you instruct us and quite frankly you're a drunk and you suck. Hop in your car take a few sips and dont come back until you clean yourself up." If that doesnt work Rebel. Dont listen to him, what can he do. If the line is that good Tell The Band Director its either him or the line. Let Everybody know you're not playing. Tell them how you truly feel. It Should work Exactly what I would do...if talking doesn't work. _________________________ Sometimes....when I am putting oranges in a circle, I think of my thoughts and they make me laugh. (Celebrity Jeopardy) 05 LSU Tenor Line Son!
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#96854 - 10/24/05 08:50 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: SiKwItIt]
hyperionmsu Registered: 03/22/04 Loc: St. Louis/Springfield, MO	Quote: Fire him Yourself.. If youre the section leader.. Just Tell Him Straight.."The line as a whole doesnt like the way you instruct us and quite frankly you're a drunk and you suck. Hop in your car take a few sips and dont come back until you clean yourself up." If that doesnt work Rebel. Dont listen to him, what can he do. If the line is that good Tell The Band Director its either him or the line. Let Everybody know you're not playing. Tell them how you truly feel. It Should work Yeah, way to be. Last time I checked, students can't fire teachers. And while you think "rebelling" makes you look like a badass, it just makes you look retarded. Discuss it with your teacher, discuss it with your principal, discuss it with the administration, but don't take matters into your own hands. (Also, how's he getting to school drunk... I doubt his mommy is dropping him off, and I doubt that he's drinking at school... so that means he's driving a motor vehicle to and from practice. Sweet.) _________________________ missouri state university - snare 05,06 phi mu alpha sinfonia, iota rho - spring 06
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#96855 - 10/24/05 09:32 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: hyperionmsu]
UTM3rdBass Registered: 12/21/02 Loc: UTM, Martin, Tennessee	If he is drunk in school property he could be thrown in jail as well as be fired. Make sure that he is drunk during practices and in school property and then call the administration and the board of education in your county. _________________________ [color:"blue}CHS Front Ensemble (4 Years)[/color"] MCL Drum and Bugle Corps(2Yrs) [color:"red"]DCA I&E Part.(05)2nd place Keyboard[/color] [color:"orange"]UT Martin Drumline 05-Present[/color] [color:"blue"]West Athens Percussion (06-07)Marimba[/color] Bruceton Central High Percussion Tech 07-Present
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#96856 - 10/25/05 09:19 AM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: UTM3rdBass]
Dave_Fry Registered: 05/24/04 Loc: Sanatoga, PA	Yeah...students cannot "fire" instructors...you can tell him that you will not listen to anything he tells you to do, therefore bringing attention to your situation, and hopefully getting a staunch response from your unit, or director... _________________________ As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error. - Weisert Dave Fry -DCA 01' Reading Buccaneers Snareline -Souderton Area High School Percussion Instructor 01-07
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#96857 - 01/29/06 01:47 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: Dave_Fry]
snare13 blanks Registered: 01/04/06 Loc: Russell, Ky	Take over. If he doesn't like what you are doing, then tell him he can change it if he can. If he is that drunk, then he will beat you up and go to jail. Haha. But seriously, you might as well move the things in the direction that you want it to go. If you are inexperienced, talk to the other drumliners in you area for some suggestions or check out some drum corp videos. _________________________ Pasic 2007- [color:"blue"]10th Place High School Snare[/color] Pasic 2005- [color:"red"]13th Place High School Snare[/color] 2003-2008-[color:"#00FF00"] Russell High School Drumline Section Leader [/color] www.rudimentaldrumming.com www.myspace.com/daddyhall
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#96858 - 01/29/06 06:04 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: snare13]
TBoneLaForge Registered: 04/01/03 Loc: Raleigh, NC	Hmm, I honestly don't remember ever teaching a school in Florida....Damn blackouts. _________________________ Rudimentary, my dear Watson... EIRT #7
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#96859 - 02/19/06 12:01 AM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: TBoneLaForge]
TRiCksHoT Registered: 01/16/05 Loc: east tennessee	Our pit instructor was a stoner, but everyone liked him. Just tell him to stop drinking and to start smoking weed. But in all seriousness, I would certainly tell the school board. I don't think they want a drunk teaching kids like that. _________________________ You can protect your respect, if you only take your fame with a grain.
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#96860 - 02/19/06 09:50 AM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: TRiCksHoT]
Cadet311 Registered: 09/12/04 Loc: North NJ	Don't rebel. It'll just make the situation worse and will create a stigma in your other players head that "Hey, I dont like this new guy, 'lets rebel and he'll leave!" Otherwise, talk to the director or someone else in charge. Have them observe them. Hopefully that will solve your problem. But on looking back on your post, it says nothing about this guy being a drunk - so how do you know he is? _________________________ I teach some lines - ask me Bridgemen Quads 07, Snare 08 http://www.tgcmusic.net - MY Website - CZPercussion
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#96861 - 02/28/06 06:08 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: Cadet311]
MhsSenior Registered: 12/11/05 Loc: Texas	Yeah our director is like that only on monday mornings after a long weekend but he is only 24 and just got out of college so you cant really expect more from him. But when it comes to percussion he somewhat knows what he is doing I guess you would say. This year was his first year to actully have his own line so...... _________________________ The beginning of wisdom is found in doubting; by doubting we come to the question, and by seeking we may come upon the truth. - Pierre Abelard
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#96862 - 02/28/06 06:22 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: MhsSenior]
_drummergirl_ Registered: 01/21/06 Loc: Norway	Quote: Yeah our director is like that only on monday mornings after a long weekend but he is only 24 and just got out of college so you cant really expect more from him. This not acceptable just because he is 24!! That's no excuse for showing up in that condition.
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#96863 - 03/14/06 06:55 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: _drummergirl_]
MhsSenior Registered: 12/11/05 Loc: Texas	True no ezception. I see that now. When he came in and stole a bunch of drums and skipped town...... _________________________ The beginning of wisdom is found in doubting; by doubting we come to the question, and by seeking we may come upon the truth. - Pierre Abelard
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#96864 - 03/20/06 02:08 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: MhsSenior]
hyperionmsu Registered: 03/22/04 Loc: St. Louis/Springfield, MO	Quote: Yeah our director is like that only on monday mornings after a long weekend but he is only 24 and just got out of college so you cant really expect more from him. But when it comes to percussion he somewhat knows what he is doing I guess you would say. This year was his first year to actully have his own line so...... If you're getting drunk on Sunday night, chances are you're a pretty big tool. _________________________ missouri state university - snare 05,06 phi mu alpha sinfonia, iota rho - spring 06
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#96865 - 03/21/06 04:57 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: hyperionmsu]
MhsSenior Registered: 12/11/05 Loc: Texas	Its even worst when he knows that he has to come in and teach the next day and he still goes and partys on thursday nights. Our School District isn't bringing him back next year. _________________________ The beginning of wisdom is found in doubting; by doubting we come to the question, and by seeking we may come upon the truth. - Pierre Abelard
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#96866 - 05/29/06 12:24 AM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: ]
PiZetaPitman Registered: 04/13/05 Loc: St. Louis, MO	There should not be any drunk instructors. If instuctors come in to work drunk, they usually get fired. That instructor failed at doing his job because of his drinking. That director should have been gone no matter what the situation. Showing up yo work drunk is no where near professional. I'm going to be a instructor someday, and I have to know my stuff, act professional, and enjoy doing my job. Instructing music is an example of advancing music in America. Jason Hood Phi Mu Alpha (Pi Zeta Fall 2004) Edited by PiZetaPitman (05/29/06 12:27 AM)
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#96867 - 09/19/06 04:59 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: PiZetaPitman]
whysecret Registered: 05/29/04 Loc: Indonesia	There should be other instructor can do better, much better than your drunk instructor can do. what did he teach you? drunken fist paradiddle? p.l.e.a.s.e.!! talk to your BD about this situation.
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#96868 - 09/19/06 06:45 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: Dave_Fry]
Anonymous Unregistered	Yeah we had an instructor come all of band camp and was with us for 2 weeks straight, then he decided not to come to any competitions/games/practices after that and he never taught us any cadences and promised us tons of breaks and sweet licks in the song and never did that, so my band director payed him absolutely nothing, and it was great.
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#96869 - 09/20/06 05:09 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: ]
ctownpit Registered: 02/17/06 Loc: Clayton North Carolina	if he's a drunk, he doesn't need to be infront of any drumline.period. go to your school administration if your BD woln't do anything, and get him FIRED, don't rebel, then you'll just get in trouble, probably has something about that in your student handbook (least my school does). Go to the school administration and leave it in their hands this way you stay in school (and rehersal) and your drunk instructor is gone. it may be a bad thing that he might loose his job, but a drunk instructor doesn't even need to be on the school campus. _________________________ We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then is not an act, but a habit. Aristotle 384-322 B.C.
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#96870 - 09/20/06 06:28 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: ctownpit]
Neil Landini Registered: 02/14/01 Loc: Richmond, VA USA	Wow, there are some extremely immature posts from people with "high rank" on this board! What exactly is that rank for if you post things like that? My advice as a band director: A. You are a student, act like one and talk to the people who run the show and be able to prove what you say. Band director(s), principal(s), and superintendent(s) are good options, but understand that you will need to be as mature as possible to be understood and taken seriously. B. Do your job in the band program, listen to the instruction you ARE being given and play you music and marcch your drill. Wanting something better does not mean you destroy what you have! Be positive through this process, it may get ugly. C. Look around on the internet and gather instructional information from places like vicfirth.com, innvativepercussion.com, etc. There are so many sources of information out there, take advantage of them! NL _________________________ Neil Landini BAND! Great Instruments Great Sticks/Mallets
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#96871 - 09/29/06 02:11 PM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: Neil Landini]
DrNick Registered: 09/28/06 Loc: West Milford, NJ	If I were in that situation, I would just formulate a plan to go up the chain of command. In all forms of work/business/teaching, a chain of command is in place for situations like this. Gather your (and your line's) thoughts and present it to the Band Director. Next is the Band Boosters / Band Parents (who have a lot more pull than you realize). If that doesn't work, the Principal. No principal in his/her right mind would ever let something like this continue for long. _________________________ Instructor - West Milford HS '97-Present
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#96872 - 10/02/06 06:46 AM Re: Drunk Instructor [Re: ]
Anonymous Unregistered	Have you tried talking to the local police? Make a copy of your practice schedule hand it to the nice officer and tell him what his is driving. Then when he gets busted for O.W.I/D.W.I (whatever applies for your state) everyone in the school board will take notice and that should be the end of it.
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